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"ACTION GROUP CALLS FOR RE-OPENING OF EDINBURGH'S ABBEYHILL STATION"

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  1. gembo
    Member

    kapps - yes the siding was filled in for sure. I know people who use this as a reason for arguing against planning permission to turn the Station Master's House and the land around into Cala Development. Filled in not well enough to be built on. I will continue browsing the sight for pictures of Balerno Station [I have a book of photos somewhere too]. I think the station might have been further down heading north than the house you can see from the road [now an office for agency nurses] necessitating a bit of a walk, but in the olden days people could walk.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  2. kaputnik
    Moderator

    here's one for you.

    Indeed they could walk. My Great Aunt and her family were of Kirkhill in Penicuik and worked in the mills there. They had relatives in Juniper Green who worked in those mills. They took it turn about to walk through the Pentlands every Sunday to go to the other's house for tea. I'm not sure if they were church goers and walked instead of church or after it. Sorry, kirk. With a meenestrrrrrrr.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  3. gembo
    Member

    I was going to post this one, but I bet it is the same one as you put on just there

    http://www.edinphoto.org.uk/1_edin_t/1_edinburgh_transport_railways_-_balerno_station.htm

    Posted 13 years ago #
  4. Arellcat
    Moderator

    Multitude of daffodils and a low wall:

    Gugolcar view

    I knew fine well about the Balerno branch and Ravelrig, but never spotted the remnants!

    Posted 13 years ago #
  5. yeehaa
    Member

    Here's a video of what the turnback will look like:

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    Posted 12 years ago #
  6. crowriver
    Member

    So basically there's no reason not to reinstate the station, as the trains will be stopping there anyway.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  7. chdot
    Admin

    "So basically there's no reason not to reinstate the station, as the trains will be stopping there anyway."

    If only life was so simple.

    Then it would be possible to reopen the South Sub, have more than one tram stop on Princes Street etc...

    Posted 12 years ago #
  8. LaidBack
    Member

    As often mentioned.

    If only they made a route to Leith. Then they could park them down there and pick up some business.

    Assume this an overspill arrangement for Waverley?

    Posted 12 years ago #
  9. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Assume this an overspill arrangement for Waverley?

    Quite.

    I didn't realise that the trains are quite literally stopping at the old platforms (which were still there last time I checked).

    Posted 12 years ago #
  10. AKen
    Member

    Do any of you enthusiasts of the rails have any material pertaining to the old station at Colinton.

    If you carry on past the site of Colinton Station towards Juniper Green you cross a bridge just past the premises of a now defunct travel company. These were housed in a large building known locally as 'The Porage Factory'. (Scott's Porage Oats used to be milled here, I think.) If you look 50m downstream from the bridge you'll see another (disused and inaccessible) bridge. Both are former railway bridges - the one that that Water of Leith walkway goes over was the through line and the other carried a siding.

    However, there's no obvious way to fit railway tracks in so that a siding could get from the line to the second bridge. The reason for this is that the siding left the line just after the gate to Spylaw Park and went right THROUGH the Porage Factory (in a huge opening long since sealed off), emerging out of the other side and across the car park to go over the bridge and carry trains to the vanished buildings on the far bank of the river.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  11. chdot
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  12. chdot
    Admin

    I have this at home -

    Will look later.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  13. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Immediately after Colinton, if heading west, there was a junction. The main line at this point stayed north of the river, curving off to the right. The spur off the junction forked to the left, ran straight ahead, crossed the river on a bridge and into a short dead-end siding for the West Mills. This was a grain and paper mill, I assume is what you are referring to as the "porage mill".

    After the junction, the main line then crosses the river on a bridge, runs parallel and south of the river for a few hundred metres before crossing again to the north bank.

    There were no further junctions or sidings or crossings of the river before Juniper Green station is reached.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  14. chdot
    Admin

    Wot k sez

    Posted 12 years ago #
  15. kaputnik
    Moderator

    (click for bigger)

    Posted 12 years ago #
  16. chdot
    Admin

    "I assume is what you are referring to as the "porage mill"."

    No, it's the one the yellow line is drawn through at the edge of Spylaw Park.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  17. kaputnik
    Moderator

    That's the one I described above? (West Mills)

    P.S. key on that map is Blue = Caledonian Railway, Yellow = private sidings

    Posted 12 years ago #
  18. chdot
    Admin

    Thought West Mill was other side of river(?)

    Posted 12 years ago #
  19. Arellcat
    Moderator

    1893, but probably the same source of maps as chdot's book:

    Posted 12 years ago #
  20. kaputnik
    Moderator

    I think what AKen describes matches both maps as being West Mills. Siding branches off from "main line", runs across river and into mills. What your map from book confirms though is that it was a short terminus, into some sort of exchange building where it was then loaded onto a mill tramway. The line doesn't continue any further on and cross another bridge. Apart from where the railway crosses back over the river before Juniper Green, there are no other rail bridges, so anything else I think is more likely to have been associated with the mill - perhaps something to do with water flow and control?

    Posted 12 years ago #
  21. kaputnik
    Moderator

    1914 OS 1:2500 survey

    Posted 12 years ago #
  22. chdot
    Admin

    OK

    Scott's was at West Mills (south side)

    http://www.scottsporage.co.uk/the-scotts-porage-story/our-heritage/#4

    Then it was built on north side -

    http://www.scottsporage.co.uk/the-scotts-porage-story/our-heritage/#6

    on yellow line. This might have been West Mill (don't know).

    In Globespan days it was called Colinton House.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  23. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Okay jump forward to 1932 survey and West Mills has been extended across river to north bank, but still evident on south.

    If you look at the above screenshot close up, the Globespan building is directly on site of the building straddling the rail line next to the "2602 | 597" notation on map. Assume this some sort of grain elevator.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  24. AKen
    Member

    If you look at the above screenshot close up, the Globespan building is directly on site of the building straddling the rail line next to the "2602 | 597" notation on map. Assume this some sort of grain elevator.

    The Globespan building is actually the same building that straddled the railway. There is a photo kicking around somewhere showing a train going through the ground floor. This link isn't it but has a good view of the site anyway.

    http://canmore.rcahms.gov.uk/en/site/151883/details/edinburgh+west+mill+road+west+mills/

    The site seems to have been collectively known as West Mills, regardless of which bank. I guess this was to distinguish it from Spylaw Mill to the East.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  25. kaputnik
    Moderator

    From the Herald;

    CAMPAIGNERS are urging ministers to add 12 new stations to Scotland's rail network as the Government puts the finishing touches to a £1 billion investment programme in the central belt.

    The proposed stations are;

    Proposed routes
    Station & Route
    Royroyston, Cumbernauld line
    Winchburgh, Edinburgh-Glasgow
    Grangemouth, Grangemouth freight line
    Bonnybridge, Edinburgh-Glasgow
    Abronhill, Cumbernauld line
    Abbeyhill, Edinburgh South Suburbun
    Portobello, North Berwick Line
    Woodilee, Edinburgh-Glasgow
    Westerhill, Edinburgh-Glasgow
    Bannockburn, Dunblane line
    Cambus, Alloa line

    Abbeyhill of course has never been on the "South Suburban" [sic] line. But we'll let them off with that.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  26. chdot
    Admin

    "Abbeyhill of course has never been on the "South Suburban" [sic] line. But we'll let them off with that."

    Think the notion is that if (I used to say when) South Sub reopens, trains would be routed via Abbeyhill to keep main line clear.

    Posted 12 years ago #

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