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Edinburgh - Glasgow - Edinburgh

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  1. Roibeard
    Member

    I'm thinking of taking a two day trip with a friend as a bit of an expedition - to Glasgow and back (yep, I know some of you can do that in a day...)

    A quick glance at the elevations suggest NCN 75 out, 754 back, as the 75 is steeper, and we'd be fresher on the first day.

    Yes, 754 out and back might be easier, but I was aiming for a bit of variety.

    I know bits of the 75 are diverted, although some of rail-related diversions may be gone by the time the trip is taken.

    Any tips or suggestions for alternatives, or sections of either to avoid? It might be on the tandem...

    Robert

    Posted 12 years ago #
  2. steveo
    Member

    Kaputnik and ruggtomcat tried managed to ride out to the SECC(CCCC) but from their accounts its not something I'd do for fun.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  3. kaputnik
    Moderator

    The route Ruggtomcat and I took was;

    Back roads to Ratho then Newbridge
    Newbridge to Broxburn on A89 Edinburgh Road (not an NCN route, but fairly good pavement / on road lanes all the way) Although it's just alongside a busy main road, with nothing interesting to see beyond housing estates and industrial units.
    Continued as far as Bathgate on this (although sections just on main road, it was reasonably quiet early in morning, think most traffic would be on M8)
    We couldn't find the way onto the NCN75 route from the new Bathgate Station, which at the time was recently openened and there were no signs to the (at the time) unopened (but completed) replacement path. We followed bikehub directions for the "road replacement route" as best as possible as far as Armadale, as at the time there were no signs for the replacement route.
    After Armadale we stumbled upon the completed NCN75 route, all freshly tarmacced and silky smooth - no signs up on it, but very definitely completed and ridable.

    Note on the replacement NCN75 route - it is fairly flat on the map scale as it follows the railway line, but for a flat and straight route it twists and it turns as they havent bothered to level the ground, just followed the contours and curves of the moorland alongside the railway. It's also very, very exposed with no shelter, so was fairly unpleasant into the headwind. Route crosses and recrosses the railway on a number of occasions and there were quite a few forks and turnoffs that were not signed that we got lost exploring down.

    Lost the path on a number of occassions in the villages, but seemed to pick it up by chance / luck / good fortune and eventually arrived in Airdrie at the Drumgelloch end.

    From there 75 takes back streets and again made it through more by luck and chance than anything else (certainly not through helpful signage!)

    It twists and turns all over the place in Coatbridge, through estates, parks, back roads, bits of cyclepath, old railway, pavements etc. Numerous occasions we missed the tiny signs because they obviously were put in from point of view of someone walking the route in one direction and not cycling it in other.

    From Coatbridge it is quite main roads to Uddingston, a little bit more getting lost in parkland until the Clyde is picked up a little bit further on in Carmyle.

    There was a diversion off the Clyde path at Dalmarnock which turned us out in the blasted wastelands around Celtic Park. Once more lady luck smiled upon us and we managed to regain the river after quite literally going round in circles in some half-demolished council estate for a bit. After that it was back on the clyde path all the way to SECC / central Glasgow.

    The sections through Lanarkshire were quite literally carpetted in broken glass. Not just the odd broken bottle here and there, it was as if the local passtime was to simply smash as many buckie bottles on the path as possible. At times we got off and pushed, it was so bad you couldn't weave your way a route through.

    Some of the parkland sections near the Clyde were also more akin to CX than gentle touring.

    There's not really anything much to see on the route, the nicest bits were either alongside the Clyde or alongside the railway on the moorland. Beyond that it was run down towns and estates and decrepit footpaths. Seriously don't recommend it unless that's the sort of adventure you're after!

    Posted 12 years ago #
  4. crowriver
    Member

    I'm thinking of doing the Clyde to Forth one way as a reasonably leisurely day ride with a mate, either route 75 or 754. Start in Glasgow and get the glass strewn, dodgy bits out the way before the local neds wake up.

    Train out west, possibly the new electric Bathgate line to check which bits of the path are finished from the train window. I know that when we looked at this last year the paths by the railway were not yet finished between Airdrie and Bathgate. They were supposed to open that last bit in September but I think that was put back, don't know if it's finished yet though.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  5. Roibeard
    Member

    I presume Pedal 4 Scotland uses the 754 then? I'd be surprised if the event used the 75 given Kaputnik's description...

    Robert

    Posted 12 years ago #
  6. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Getting 2 bikes down 75 was hard enough, never mind 200 never mind 2,000!

    Posted 12 years ago #
  7. crowriver
    Member

    According to Sustrans:
    The section between Plains and Drumgelloch, near Airdrie, has been delayed and should be complete by late Spring 2012. A shared-use pavement will be constructed between Drumgelloch and Plains, running along the north side of the A89. Until the new route is complete, eastbound cyclists and walkers can use the A89 or the existing pavement to reach the beginning of the traffic-free path at Ford Bridge to the east of Plains.

    Maybe it'll be a bit better come the summer?

    Posted 12 years ago #
  8. gembo
    Member

    I have done the canals route, it is very,very wet from Falkirk to Possil, sort of shallow river. Possibly after very dry spell at height of summer it would be fine - route is enjoyable, much to see.

    Have also done the Sustrans NCN 75 - took train to Glasgow, cycled back, bizarrely ionto an easterly winf - this was just before the sculpture track was restored to the new railway. I agree with Kappers, you would need top like de-industrialisation and bagging football stadia - there are 4 on the route. Also many, many lads done up as Evil Kneivel on wee motorbikes.

    If Glasgow is part of the route you could consider getting the train to Glasgow then cycling on the sustrans route (still NCN 75 - all still on the same Sustrans map) down to Adrossan? Then cycle back. That is probably 60 miles. YOu could then overnight in Glasgow and next day go to Balloch and baCK THAT IS PROBAbly less than 30 miles [some de-industrialisation but not major). Or if height of summer come back to Embra, sunshine and civilisation [to quote Broughton Spurtle] on the canals?

    Posted 12 years ago #
  9. Morningsider
    Member

    Roibeard - I have done Edinburgh-Glasgow along NCN75 three times, although not since the A-B railway opened. One of these trips ranks as the most miserable day cycling I have every had due to poor weather, getting lost multiple times due to poor/missing/vandalised signage and punctures caused by the carpet of broken glass in many of the small Lanarkshire towns.

    If you want another suggestion for a two day adventure then I would recommend NCN1 to Berwick-upon-Tweed - I've done it in a day but it is pretty tough on the old legs. You could break the trip overnight at one of the Borders towns and then cycle on to Berwick, where you can get get the train back Edinburgh. The scenery is beautiful, lots of places to stop to eat and you get to cross a border (multiple times) by bike - which I find strangely exciting.

    You can reserve your bike on any East Coast train when you get to Berwick station, I don't think you need to reserve a space on a CrossCountry train. The guys in Berwick ticket office are very helpful and seem used to sorting out cyclists getting the train to Edinburgh.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  10. gembo
    Member

    I did NCN 1 from Newcastle to Berwick in two leisurely days staying at little Northumbrian hamlet of Howick which had chi-chi B and B and incorporating Farne Isle boat trip to check out the puffins. Cycling from city centre to Tynemouth is nice on Sat. morning - Tynemouth is bustling. Whitley Bay is not so nice, then a bit grim in the more industrial bit until you hit the National Park after which it is great. Warkworth, Beadnell, Seahouses, Bamburgh, Lindisfarne [if tide out] then into Berwick and train home all lovely.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  11. ruggtomcat
    Member

    did you take the NCN between lindsfarm and Berwick? When i did it it was a grass track across an old firing range, pretty hard with the trailer.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  12. Yep, I'd echo everyone else's sentiments. Train it down to Berwick and return to Edinburgh. Your options are to follow NCN 1 through the Borders or the local route up the coast. Better still, train it to Newcastle and take 3 days to get up the road - around Bamburgh is excellent riding though as ruggtomcat mentions, there are alternative parts of the route which are strictly for MTBs!

    We also did Carlisle to Glasgow in June which was a decent 3 day trip. I mention it because it became exceedingly miserable as soon as we got north of Kilwinning and again the Glesca environs score lowly for aesthetically pleasing and safe cycling.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  13. riffian
    Member

    I once caught the train to Lockerbie and cycled back to Edinburgh. Very quiet and scenic route via Eskdalemuir and Innerleithen (at least as far as Gorebridge). Doable in a day.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  14. SRD
    Moderator

    Colleague of mine wants to cycle Edin-Glasgow (or perhaps Glasgow-Edin). Any updates on route advice that she would benefit from hearing?

    Posted 9 years ago #
  15. gembo
    Member

    Road route, NCN75 route or canal towpath route (will be wet again now beyond Falkirk)?

    Posted 9 years ago #
  16. Arellcat
    Moderator

    I cycled to Glasgow the day before Pedal for Scotland. My route was to take the old A8, Kirknewton, Whitburn, Salsburgh, Bellshill, Glasgow Green.

    http://bikeroutetoaster.com/BRTWebUI/Course/836556

    It's a bit of a slog up and over the top at Hirst, but a brill descent the other side. The roads on a Saturday morning weren't too busy either, although the 50mph section through Livingston wasn't that much fun, and only ameliorated somewhat through the theory of BIG.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  17. DaveC
    Member

    Wow Arellacat! Respect fr taking the missile to Glasgy on the A8.

    SRD, I would ask your collegue? Friend? why she wants to do Glasy Edin? There are some much nicer cycle routes with trains back if she wants a slightly longer ride for the day.

    Edin - Gala
    Edin - Perth
    Edin - St Andrews
    Fort William - Oban

    And depending on her bicycle, there are lovely parts of the West Highland Way.

    Southern Uplands way (Gala - Berwick) and the east coast (Dundee - Stonehaven) are a couple of other nice road routes.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  18. SRD
    Moderator

    @davec that was pretty much my reaction too

    Posted 9 years ago #

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