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  1. cb
    Member

    The Scotsman | Drivers saddled with bike lane closing road

    "
    A SECTION of the West Approach Road is to be closed for a month in the summer while a new bike lane is built.

    The route of the new cycle lane will run 175 metres from the West Approach Road, at Tollcross, to the EICC Access Cycleway.

    Work is expected to begin in early June and diversions will remain in place for around four weeks.

    It is expected one lane will be closed while the works, which will cost around £45,000, are carried out.

    Existing traffic signs will be relocated and new traffic signs will be installed and new curbing will also feature.

    The city council advertised the work to contractors this week.

    It is expected that traffic management diversions will be brought in while the works are carried out
    "

    (That's the entire article to save you clicking - no comments, yet)

    Anyone know the details behind this new cycle lane?

    Posted 12 years ago #

  2. SRD
    Moderator

    does that mean 'a section of the road' or a 'lane'? rather different things 'bike lane closing road' is different from 'bike lane closing lane on road'.

    Posted 12 years ago #

  3. chdot
    Admin

    "The route of the new cycle lane will run 175 metres from the West Approach Road, at Tollcross, to the EICC Access Cycleway."

    From Lothian Road??

    Ought to be a link between Telfer Subway and Morrison Circus.

    Posted 12 years ago #

  4. crowriver
    Member

    So, the Scotsman begins the backlash against cyclists' 'war on the motorist'! Can't wait for the Clarksonistas to start spouting their predictable vitriol on the comments board...

    Posted 12 years ago #

  5. Wilmington's Cow
    Member

    I can't find any details of this on the council's website (there would normally be a document showing the planned works). As SRD points out, the Scotsman has probably been deliberately ambiguous to get the Clarksonites frothing - it's likely that a single lane is going to be closed, and only while the works are actually carried out.

    Posted 12 years ago #

  6. cb
    Member

    I found this this

    Which states:

    "West Approach Road to EICC Access Cycleway
    West Approach Road to EICC Access Cycleway. The works comprise the following: Removal of 95m of whin kerbing, reinstallation of same to a revised alignment and installation of 45m of new whin kerbing. Removal of 90m2 of existing granite setts, reinstallat "

    Not sure if it's the same thing...

    Posted 12 years ago #

  7. Wilmington's Cow
    Member

    Looks likely. I can imagine the Scotsman creating a ridiculous story out of an invitation to tender like that.

    Posted 12 years ago #

  8. kaputnik
    Moderator

    So does this mean one could cycle from Lothian Road to the toucan crossing at the Springside lane which runs between Fountainbridge and Morrison Circus? (The one with the ridiculous chicane at the bottom)

    I've always wanted to cycle along there. Mainly to have a root about the old railway bridge.

    Posted 12 years ago #

  9. Wilmington's Cow
    Member

    Not sure, I'm trying to place this.... Just where is the EICC access cycleway??? The Fountainbridge/Morrison Circus thingy is a bit far away to be considered that is it not?

    Posted 12 years ago #

  10. chdot
    Admin

    Presume it's part of the current new-build extension(?)

    Posted 12 years ago #

  11. Wilmington's Cow
    Member

    Yep, and given it's 175m, and runs from 'Tollcross', I was assuming it's a lane along the bit of road we're already allowed to ride on?

    Posted 12 years ago #

  12. custard
    Member

    the extension that has the road reduced?
    was there a Scotsman piece on the buidling works saddling road users? ;)

    Posted 12 years ago #

  13. Morningsider
    Member

    As far as I can tell he proposal is to establish a cycle lane from Lothian Road along the Western Approach Road to the basement entrance to the EICC. Details on page 13-14 of this document:

    https://citydev-portal.edinburgh.gov.uk/idoxpa-web/files/D96CDE689E25DADEC28765ECE21A24B9/pdf/09_01314_FUL-TRANSPORT_ADDITION_INFO-905845.pdf

    The reason for the new lane is that cyclists would have had to carry their bikes down a flight of stairs to get into the car park if access had to be taken from Morrison Street.

    Posted 12 years ago #

  14. Arellcat
    Moderator

    175 metres is the distance from junction with Canning St west as far as the bridge where Morrison St passes overhead. From Canning St to the 'ridiculous chicane' is about 580 metres.

    Edit: Or from Lothian Rd to the car park entrance/exit.

    Posted 12 years ago #

  15. ruggtomcat
    Member

    nice first comment

    Posted 12 years ago #

  16. chdot
    Admin

    "nice first comment"

    I assumed you were being sarcastic!!

    Wonder who the commenter is...

    Posted 12 years ago #

  17. Wilmington's Cow
    Member

    He speaks a lot of sense whoever he is....

    Posted 12 years ago #

  18. wingpig
    Member

    Is 'Tollcross' more extensive than hitherto suspected, being effectively contiguous with 'the West End' in the Scotchman's lexicon?

    I expect this lane will be of no advantage to anyone wanting to get from Lothian Road to Canning Street but I wonder if it'll still result in beepings and shoutings to get into the lane?

    Posted 12 years ago #

  19. kaputnik
    Moderator

    I still can't envisage this lane or understand the point in it and why it's worthy of the £45,000 pounds being spent on it. I'd say "couldn't they make the EICC pay?", but then the council are already paying for most of the expansion there, so it would be a Peter and Paul scenario.

    I will have to ponder it later on.

    Posted 12 years ago #

  20. gembo
    Member

    From the end of the Western Approach Road at Lothian Rd I used to cycle between the Sheraton Hotel and All Bar One through the open Square then on to Morrison St and on to Gardiner's Crescent to access Canal. There is an underground carpark approx 175m down the Western Approach Rd heading West and a right turn just beyond at traffic lights that takes you back towards Canning St and Rutland Sq etc. I cannot picture the existing 95m of whin kerbing. Tried the link to page 13-14 of council document but came up as unavailable.

    I currently avoid this area as once beyond All BAr One there is a big detour around the building site and you need to get off and push the bike

    Posted 12 years ago #

  21. LaidBack
    Member

    Isn't it bizarre when a bit of cycling infrastructure is built that no-one was asking for or expecting...? Maybe it will be this years surprise hit!

    Design wise it will have to go some to be as unusable as the zig-zag pram ramp at the WAR crossing. Hopefully it bypasses that. That actually merits a no-cycling sign.

    Think we should have a basic rule on two way cycle routes that means two bicycles can get by each other ... I know it goes against the low standards of some existing paths (eg North Meadows and the NCN 1 beside A90) but if cycling ever did reach the levels desired these paths would not work.

    Posted 12 years ago #

  22. wingpig
    Member

    This might have started...

    Posted 11 years ago #

  23. Min
    Member

    Nope, the entire city centre has not been closed off to all motorised traffic in order to put a wee bit of paint along the gutter like the Scotsman said it would. So that can't be it.

    Posted 11 years ago #

  24. gembo
    Member

    No but the big hole that caused my detour one year ago is now another conference centre next to the EICC and the route from Lothian road past all bar one is reinstated, see CHdot post. We were vociferously agitating for return of racks to side of EICC when trialling the new conference centre the other week.

    Posted 11 years ago #

  25. wingpig
    Member

    An unexpected consequence of this is ASLs at the Canning St junction. Initial observations suggest that drivers are not expecting them to be there and are therefore ignoring them.

    Posted 11 years ago #

  26. wingpig
    Member

    Actual bike lane now painted in. It'll rely on drivers noticing it and shifting a bit further to the right than previously.

    IMAG0848 by wingpig, on Flickr
    The "no bikes, horses or peds" sign is still there.

    Posted 11 years ago #

  27. steveo
    Member

    Where does that take you? Just to the ped crossing? I can see that being a magnet for punishment passes.

    Posted 11 years ago #

  28. cc
    Member

    This is mad - lots of cars go at motorway speeds on that road.

    Posted 11 years ago #

  29. steveo
    Member

    I suspect CEC are employing some mobile speed reducing measures.. us.

    Posted 11 years ago #

  30. cb
    Member

    A perfect place for proper segregation surely?

    Posted 11 years ago #

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