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Citycycling Issue 9 is online now!

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  • Started 13 years ago by Wilmington's Cow
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  1. Featuring a rather humungous article about Copenhagenisation... As well as the usual fab designs from kaputnik (including his words about Beryl Burton) and an Uberuce article that should leave you in no dounts about mountain bikes...

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  2. steveo
    Member

  3. Not with it this morning. Indeed. Linky.

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  4. steveo
    Member

    's all right anth we'll keep you right.

    Just reading mr pigs treatise in between running some heavy sql. Hope the boss doesn't notice.

    Anth you've bb tags instead of html tags in places, for example
    "(including wearing in the office on [s ]dress-down[ /s] [s ]normal-clothing[ /s]"

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  5. amir
    Member

    Good stuff, Anth (along with all the contributors). That video from Chile is amazing/alarming.

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  6. SRD
    Moderator

    Wingpig was not made for tweeting was he?!

    nice stuff! (Uberuce made me laugh! Lots!! Thanks)

    Popped by Dr Bike yesterday because everyday I said to myself 'i'll lube that chain' and everyday i forget until just too far away from the house to go back and do it.

    By the time he arrived there were 5 or more of us waiting - all women. Not sure what that says, but we were all pretty grateful that there were people there to do the messy stuff while we popped back to our offices....

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  7. crowriver
    Member

    Typo page 17!

    bb tags mistake again.

    As [ url=http://copenhagenize.eu/index/ ]this useful infographic[ /url ] f

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  8. wingpig
    Member

    @SRD Nonsense! I am perfectly capable of writing sufficiently succinctly to contain a complete message within 140 characters when the need a

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  9. wingpig
    Member

    rises.

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  10. Thought I'd caught the BB tags. Ah well. S'what happens.

    It's almost as if people read website publications to find coding mistakes rather than for the content... :P Seriously, I could have one single solitary floating square bracket in there and I promise you I will get more emails about that than the subjects within the site. Maybe it's a cyclist thing.

    Though I did get one lovely email this morning from someone commenting on the 3 month wait being 'worth it'.

    It's one of the reasons I gave it up for a while. I'm not looking for little 'you did well' pats on the head, but anyone who has ever run anything online will know how much easier criticism flows than praise (actually, it was one of Dave Hembrow's frustrations, that and spam, that lead to him shutting down his blog).

    If this was my day job I'd be more concerned about mistakes, as it is citycycling is a blog with an inflated sense of its own importance that I write and edit in snatched hours at the computer in the wee small hours.

    This issue I'm happy with, given how stressful life has been with work uncertainty, spam attacks on the site, fraudulent stealing of money on the back of that spam attack, incapacitated wife meaning everything around the house is has been done by me for the last 5 weeks... If there are a couple of typos, and a few square brackets, that I have to sort tonight... Meh.

    (I do enjoy getting emails from time to time where people think this is a full-on professional venture with a team behind it).

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  11. chdot
    Admin

    "
    (I do enjoy getting emails from time to time where people think this is a full-on professional venture with a team behind it).

    "

    But you've got the whole of CCE behind you (and a few on board).

    Can't explain why your 3 month gap has coincided with me not adding many photos to various Flickr groups.

    Must try harder.

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  12. In fairness I picked the photos a month ago and more.

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  13. steveo
    Member

    Thought I'd caught the BB tags. Ah well. S'what happens.

    It's almost as if people read website publications to find coding mistakes rather than for the content... :P Seriously, I could have one single solitary floating square bracket in there and I promise you I will get more emails about that than the subjects within the site. Maybe it's a cyclist thing.

    Sorry... ;)

    Some people try to be helpful, some people like to show how clever they are. Definitely not a cyclist thing though.

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  14. crowriver
    Member

    Just trying to help! Y'know, before that Mikael chap reads the article... :-)

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  15. chdot
    Admin

    Not talking about un/fairness.

    Just that you chose my pix quite often, but I've hardly put in the .CC group or Cycling in Edinburgh for a while.

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  16. "... before that Mikael chap reads the article... :-)"

    Plannign on emailing him tonight - he might like a right to reply. We'll see...

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  17. Roibeard
    Member

    I'm sure I should wait before commenting, but I thoroughly enjoyed the monologue...

    Nothing like a grin with my morning coffee!

    Robert

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  18. Dave
    Member

    I have to be honest, I managed the first page but when I realised quite how long it was, I had to put it on the back-burner (which isn't to suggest that I'm not impressed by this herculean effort, although I still maintain there's such a fundamental cultural divide that most of the smoke and flames is pretty much straw mannish).

    By interesting coincidence I have done my own little bout of civilised cycling this week (prompted by a certain swap arrangement with Laid-Back-Bikes) and had a drastically different experience, but that's a story for another article, I suspect.

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  19. crowriver
    Member

    I have waded through the ginormous article.

    My comments are that it is very thorough, and the research part is illuminating. However one of the reasons it is (in my estimation) too long is because of all the asides, digressions, anecdotes, and a sometimes exhaustive level of detail.

    Had I been copy editor*, I would have cut the article rather more savagely than has been the case. Perhaps in the process some of the uniqueness, the digression-as-writerly-form and biographical-anecdote-as-memory would have been lost. Instead we would have greater clarity through brevity, which may be a mundane thing to say but is still a key principle to consider.

    Anyway, well done to all concerned for writing and publishing what is still an interesting and entertaining read.

    *with thanks to SRD

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  20. Just been re-tweeted with a link to the site by the All Party Parliamentary Cycling Group!

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  21. SRD
    Moderator

    @Crowriver - Nah. that calls for an editor not a copy-editor. It's been copy-edited, but me thinks it has benefited (?) from an editorial light-hand. I would never let 'my' authors get away with that, but it makes for a distinctive voice/tone, which is nice in this day and age of strict words limits and styles (of which I am a guilty gate-keeper!).

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  22. SRD, it's one of the benefits of 'publishing' online. I never really feel the need to cut anyone, just check for punctuation and so on (and miss square brackets...). I like the personality to shine through. Plus, proper editing what like you do is hard. After all, only the person writing the piece rtuly knows what they wanted to say.

    I like to balance the pieces though, my brief take on enjoying the speed of the cycle commute (which I posted here initially) has been re-tweeted, which is nice. And kaputnik's words on Beryl Burton are short and to the point.

    I can see exactly where crowriver is coming from of course, but Billy Connolly would have been nothing without asides, digressions and anecdotes... ;)

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  23. wingpig
    Member

    "Here is not there" is the brief form. I prefer the long way round sometimes. Anth is free to tell me to stop sending him things or to impose word limits if her wishes. I've tried to deliberately shorten sentences and not use too many custom portmanteaux or extrapolated word-forms in these things.

    I recently tried discussing something with someone through Twitter and was reminded that fewer words sometimes provide more opportunities for misunderstanding, especially if someone is deliberately looking for them.

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  24. Dave
    Member

    I think individuality is no bad thing (surely for every person who is turned off by great length, there will be someone who enjoys something expansive, if only for the contrast)?

    After all, there are millions of people writing about cycling. It needs to have something to make it worth reading over the competition.

    I like the monthly format for instance, because it means that you can get a good dose of interesting stuff in there, but it's also not over topical (because in the blogosphere, a month old tweet spat is ancient history) which reduces the opportunities for rilement that I something experience reading current affairs!

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  25. LaidBack
    Member

    Will be browsing and reading later... ideal for the laptop when I can get it from the other users...!

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  26. Stepdoh
    Member

    Thanks to Uberuce I will forever have the phrase 'goatse your eyeballs' carved onto my brain.

    Good stuff though.

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  27. The length of wingpig's article is certainly causing some debate! More than the actual contents!

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  28. wingpig
    Member

    Fortunately some of this debate is taking place on Twitter, where there is little danger of something being so long that it causes boredom and drifting off after a few letters.

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  29. Stepdoh
    Member

    sorry, had to you to little there. :)

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  30. Instography
    Member

    Sometimes the only way to deal with lazy over-generalised criticism is to work through all the details that make it wrong. I found the idiosyncratic meanderings a very entertaining diversion from the work I was supposed to be doing.

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