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Iain @IainGil
@CyclingEdin @asda at the Jewel, cycle rack fail.
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Iain @IainGil
@CyclingEdin @asda at the Jewel, cycle rack fail.
http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/asda-the-jewel-edinburgh-do-they-just-not-like-cyclist
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Yep, used those, by parking across several of the wheel benders to get the frames properly locked.
Not ideal...
Robert
The stores at Chesser and Newhaven have proper Sheffield racks which can be demonstrated as examples when complaining to the store managers. Haven't seen the one at Straiton yet.
would be amusing to go in with a length of chain and lock all that junk to the wheel-benders
funny thing is that just the other day,. MR SRD was at the other asda (slateford), and forgot his bike lock. but he said shelter was being used by asda staff who had helped elderly folk do their shopping and were then waiting with them for taxis. he figured this was a good use, and it kept his bike safe ... at least its better than the usual bunch of smokers who have led me to shun the bike racks for the railings.
What a bunch of tossers. Typical of the attitude being discussed yesterday.
Asda in Dalgety Bay has three reasonably constructed bike stands
Larger Asda in Dunfermline has no bike parking facilities whatsoever, despite a massive car park
Quite like their olives and sun dried tomatoes, nonetheless
Asda in Dalgety Bay has three reasonably constructed bike stands
Yes, I've used them, very handy. The one down at Newhaven has loads of Sheffield stands, overlooked by cafe. Pretty good, though not covered.
I did complain politely to Asda Dunfermline Store Manager about the lack of bike provision, but clearly I was a visitor from another planet.
@bax, perhaps a letter to Asda HQ will sharpen his attitude up a bit? Shopping in Dunfermline does seem to be heavily car based, from what I've seen. Strange as they have a lot of shared use paths.....oh maybe that's why.
I've been exchanging terse correspondence with Thomas Docherty MP about the lack of a safe cycle commuting route between Dunf and FRB, but he truly doesn't get it.
Problem being that he can't mentally differentiate between direct cycle commuting and lazy sunny sunday family leisure route.
Problem being that he can't mentally differentiate between direct cycle commuting and lazy sunny sunday family leisure route.
This is a very common problem. John Swinney is allegedly a "keen cyclist" but he doesn't get it either.
There is a widespread perception that cycling any further than, say, the corner shop is a lot of effort, painful, only for Olympic athletes, etc. The reality is that most normal folk could cycle 20-30 miles without too much discomfort. Of course, most would never bother.
Similarly many folk do not know what a pannier is, never mind a cycle trailer or cargo bike. So the idea of supermarket shopping by bicycle is quite alien to them, they would not even consider it: that's what cars are for, after all, isn't it? Mr Benz back in the late 19th century, he was inventing a device to go to the supermarket, wasn't he?
bax, copy you're correspondance to Helen Eadie (Inverkething) as she is very pro cycling and her assistant is a VERY keen cyclists I ride with and who use to commute to the parliament from Dalgety Bay when he worked there. He is sure to have some influence with Thomas. I'll drop a note to Thomas also, feel free to pm me with a jist of you're conversations so I know what his opinions are in advance.
roger wilco, DaveC.
"There is a widespread perception that cycling any further than, say, the corner shop is a lot of effort, painful, only for Olympic athletes, etc."
A few times at work people have said to me in the lift at the end of the day, "Oh, so how far do you cycle?" and I reply with "Only 4 or 5 miles" at which point there's a look of incredulity that verges on awe.
I remember my other half being surprised at how (reasonably) easy she found 20 miles the first time we did it.
FYI - the obstruction at The Jewel Asda has now been removed. A big thanks to kaesae from STW!
That's a shame to hear about Thomas Docherty. I had emailed him about The Times' campaign and got a very good and supportive reply. Maybe it was written by HQ or just didn't need him to make that distinction. As one of his constituents I'd be happy to throw something into that argument. It actually wouldn't take much to create good off-routes between Dunfermine and FRB.
"just didn't need him to make that distinction"
That is entirely possible. After all there is a "perfectly good" cycle route between Edinburgh and Dunfy already. For anyone who has never tried it that is.
"FYI - the obstruction at The Jewel Asda has now been removed. A big thanks to kaesae from STW! "
Well done, perseverance paid off! That seemed to be like pulling a tooth from a grizzly bear with a headache as well as toothache but, at least they did it eventually. Talk about grudging.
@Instography
It actually wouldn't take much to create good off-routes between Dunfermine and FRB.
I was specifically petitioning him to help to close Grange Road to motorists in order to provide a safe direct commuting route between FRB and Dunf. The local council voted to close the road after the latest cycling fatality but were overruled by Fife Council.
Thomas Docherty unreasonably told me he didn't think it was viable to close Grange Road but on further questioning he didn't provide a reason for adopting this view. However he has contacted the police on the matter, presumably because he is unaware of fatalities.
If you are interested in reviewing the correspondence, PM me your email address - DaveC has also expressed an interest.
@bax: I would love to use the Grange Rd as a cycle route as I work in a garage off Elgin Street and it would be the most direct and safest route...if it were closed to cars. I remember when they came round asking locals their opinions about closing that road, I don't think I cycled much at the time though so it didn't have the same relevance to me then.
I have tried cycling it a few times on my commute but I just find it too risky...and I'm used to cycling in Edinburgh!
I now cut off into Pitreavie at the Sky roundabout and take the slightly off-road route between the recyling bins at the top of the industrial est and the dirt lane that cuts back onto the Grange road. (http://www.mapmyride.com/routes/fullscreen/82672493/)
I do agree though that from the bridge to dunfermline is not an enjoyable cycle, when it could and should be.
Carl -
Grange Road would be ideal but alas two key players don't have much of a clue at all - the local MP Thomas Docherty and the Head of Transport at Fife Council, Bob McLellan.
Thomas is happy to ignore correspondence that strays further than a cosy interpretation; and Bob's actually quite proud of Fife Council's ridiculous non-continuous shared use pavements which he has a cheek to call traffic free paths, so I wouldn't even know where to start with him.
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