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Emergency Tool Borrow

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  • Started 12 years ago by steveo
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  1. steveo
    Member

    Don't suppose any one in town has the tool to install the left crank arm on a hollowtech type bottom bracket assembly? Just noticed this morning it was coming lose, unfortunately I was half way into the office when I got a chance to work out what all the play was about at my feet.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  2. Hmmm, that's not just the big allen key then? Cos I've got one of those, and probably the most convenient person for you! (mind you, Evans is just next door if it's something specialised?)

    Posted 12 years ago #
  3. DaveC
    Member

    Where are you Steveo? I'm in St Andrew Sq and have some tools. A bike shop might be a better bet at lunch time.

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  4. steveo
    Member

    The one I borrowed from my mate looks like this
    http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/icetoolz-icetoolz-hollowtech-ii-bottom-bracket-tool-prod23832/

    But I don't think this type gets tight enough. I figured this would be a long shot but figured it might be easier than going to the lbs.

    I'd hate to think what Evans would charge to tighten that...

    Posted 12 years ago #
  5. chdot
    Admin

    That's one tool I don't have!

    Suggest you sample the help on offer from Evans.

    If no luck Macdonalds or Biketrax.

    All within walking/pushing distance!

    Posted 12 years ago #
  6. steveo
    Member

    It was a long shot given just how specialised a tool it is!

    I'm conflicted about using Evans for repairs, plus they're dear for most repairs. I'm debating whether to go up to Pedals or just go to Evans.

    Its one of these things I'd rather not pay (much) for since the tool is so cheap and I've either got one in the house or its at my mates ten minutes down the road.

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  7. chdot
    Admin

    The 'opportunity' is to see how Evans deals with a 'small emergency'.

    You don't have to accept their price (if they proposed to charge you) or become a regular 'repair customer'.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  8. steveo
    Member

    Excellent points, I'll take one for the team and see how they deal with this.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  9. crowriver
    Member

    I have a hollowtech BB tool, but suspect I'm a bit distant to be useful. Plus looking after kids, can't get to lock-up to find the thing...

    Evans have a 20% off voucher valid just now:
    http://www.evanscycles.com/uploads/File/edinburgh-offers.PDF

    Need to print it off double sided mind.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  10. steveo
    Member

    Cool, if they do want to charge then i'll get a little off it.

    Need some dry lube any way.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  11. steveo
    Member

    Took it in to Evans, they've booked it in for a look to make sure its not done any damage. Minimum labour charge of £11.50 and they'll let me know if it needs any thing. I'll get it back after work.

    On the way out the door I seen the tool I need for £8, though this wouldn't reveal and underlying damage it would've put me back on the road...

    This is probably the "proper" way to deal with this issue, though I think the smaller bike shops would've whipped the crank off, had a look and put it back together there and then for a modest fee. Maybe if i'd turned up looking like I was riding it not in my work garb he would've sensed more urgency.

    Didn't buy any dry lube...

    Posted 12 years ago #
  12. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Ach sorry I have one of these and could have gotten it to you today... £8 not bad, think I paid twice that at the time! (although I've saved a bit of money on being able to do all subsequent BB replacement / take-it-out-clean-it-regrease-its myself)

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  13. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Oh just re-reading this, it's the crankarm rather than the BB that is coming loose. Bicycleworks informed me that the plastic nut that the special hollowtech tool tightens to pre-load the non-drive crankarm only has to be finger tight anyway so I never bothered to get the tool.

    When my one kept working loose it was the BB that was worn out - it was allowing the axle to rock slightly as it rotated, meaning whenever it was tightened up it would eventually prise its way loose.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  14. steveo
    Member

    It might yet be that. The mtb hollowtech failed in that manner, though this one hasn't done that much mileage I'll be a little disappointed if it has gone.

    If it has I might have to borrow that tool from you, not inclined to pay for another bb refit after paying for it the last time given its a very simple job.

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  15. steveo
    Member

    Well picked up the bike from Evans... They hadn't had a chance to look at it. Looked like they were working putting sold bikes together. The risk with using a big bike shifter I suppose.


    The 'opportunity' is to see how Evans deals with a 'small emergency'.

    In summary they didn't!

    On the plus side I had a play with the crank arm and plastic bit, they actually seemed pretty well attached to the axel so it must be the bb that's died.

    I'll get a new one ordered from CRC, kaputnik can I borrow your bb tool?

    Posted 12 years ago #
  16. crowriver
    Member

    @steveo, that's a bit poor! They should have told you if they were too busy to look at it.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  17. kaputnik
    Moderator

    @steveo let us arrange a transfer of bottom bracket installing paraphernalia for Friday

    Posted 12 years ago #
  18. steveo
    Member

    I DON'T BELIEVE IT!

    I took the Single speed in this morning and the crank arm just about fell off half way in. Tightened the bolt by hand sufficiently to keep it in place the rest of the way.

    Has any one in town got a large Allen key to tighten up the bolt on a square taper bb?

    Posted 12 years ago #
  19. Instography
    Member

    That's one that any shop would lend you. I had a similar issue with my SS and "fixed" it with the Allen key on a multi-tool but I think you just don't get enough torque to stop it loosening again. I found that by the time I'd got home (re-tightening it, I don't know four times along the way) there had been enough play in the crank arm to do permanent damage so a new arm was needed.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  20. steveo
    Member

    Thanks to @wingpig I got the single speed home, attacked it with the big allen key and got it well torqued up. Don't know how long it will last but it'll hopefully it'll keep me on the road for a couple of days. Think it'll probably need replaced.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  21. steveo
    Member

    Could any one lend me a square taper type bb tool? I'm sick of tightening the crank arm every few miles...

    Posted 12 years ago #
  22. wingpig
    Member

    Yip. Tomorrow lunchtime?

    Posted 12 years ago #
  23. stiltskin
    Member

    any reason why you can't take it to Pedals in Bruntsfield? Thet would fettle it pretty cheaply.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  24. steveo
    Member

    Cheers wingpig, where when?

    Mainly because I'm very cheap, if I out sourced all my repairs I'd be as well on the bus. bb swap is a simple enough job and I can get the parts much cheaper than the bike shops sell them. Besides every time I am in there he has enough work to keep him busy for weeks.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  25. steveo
    Member

    Having dragged wingpig out to drop off what turned out to be the wrong tool, I've found the big adaptor in the bottom of my tool box. I couldn't tell you where or when I acquired it though....

    Posted 12 years ago #

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