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Talking of shutting roads for half marathons

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  1. chdot
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    There's been a bit of discussion on here about whether roads would be shut for drivers - without warning and proper diversions - the way they sometimes seem to be for cyclists.

    It would be nice if some roads were shut every Sunday.

    'We' approve when it's done in Holyrood Park.

    Certainly done in other places -

    "CicLAvia Rules! How Bicyclists Made L.A. a Better Place"

    http://www.laweekly.com/2012-04-05/news/ciclavia-LA-bicycles-founding

    How about Melville Drive (Meadows) or the Western Approach Road, or ? -

    Posted 13 years ago #
  2. Min
    Member

    "- the way they sometimes seem to be for cyclists."

    Sometimes seem? The only example where warning and diversions have been put in place I can think of in all my years of cycling is Russell Road. Other people may come up with others.

    Why only Sundays?

    Posted 13 years ago #
  3. wingpig
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    Remember Pope Day? Lovely and peaceful ride in that day.

    At the moment Grange Road is lovely and peaceful simply due to being blocked off at the eastern extremity to have new gas installed. Recently when they were re-roughening-up the surface of Jock's Lodge and access to Willowbrae Road was restricted from a couple of directions it too was much more pleasant for the first stretch. A few careful closures in a few places to stop things which are usually through-routes being used thereas could work wonders.

    The Sunday thing is possibly just that more journeys might be seen as optional on Sundays, whereas at every other time every motorised journey is absolutely vital and must be undertaken as swiftly as machinely possible. Slightly problematic is that Sunday is Park All Over the Meadows and on Melville Drive Day; I know that it's quite possible to walk from at least the edge of the Meadows to the middle but many seem not to.

    Whilst it might take regularity for habitual drivers to get used to particular roads being shut on particular days and to not gripe about it so much, a sort of rotating main-road-closure system would allow lots of little shoppy-clumps to have a go at being nice and pedestrian-friendly. Raeburn Place one weekend, then Morningside Road/Bruntsfield place, then Nicolson/Clerk St, then Broughton Street and so on.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  4. chdot
    Admin

    "Why only Sundays?"

    Well...

    There are two different things emerging here.

    As wingpig says there are plenty of places that could easily become no through routes for motor vehicles.

    The Sunday events are more of a 'mass public health' thing - like Sky Rides - only every week and not just for cyclists (or runners like marathons etc.).

    Posted 13 years ago #
  5. Min
    Member

    "The Sunday events are more of a 'mass public health' thing"

    Yes but it does kind of reinforce what the politicians already "know" - that cycling is a leisure pursuit to be done slowly and with plenty of dismounting and long detours. On a Sunday.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  6. chdot
    Admin

    "does kind of reinforce what the politicians already "know" - that cycling is a leisure pursuit to be done slowly and with plenty of dismounting and long detours"

    Agreed that could be a problem if it led to 'you've got your Sundays what more do you want?'

    But it seems to work where it's done, making people want more use of more roads 'every day'

    Works well in Bogotá -

    http://www.streetfilms.org/ciclovia

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    Posted 13 years ago #
  7. "Yes but it does kind of reinforce what the politicians already "know" - that cycling is a leisure pursuit to be done slowly and with plenty of dismounting and long detours. On a Sunday."

    But if it gets people cycling, on a Sunday, who wouldn't normally cycle, who then get a bit more experience, and realise where they can get to etc etc etc. who then get onto the bike to commute? Surely that's a good thing?

    Posted 13 years ago #
  8. Min
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    I really don't know. Bogota apparently already has a pretty extensive cycle network, integrated transport and so on. Cycling is already encouraged there as a way to get about.

    Posted 13 years ago #

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