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Started 11 years ago by Snowy
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Snowy
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Finally... maybe those 'fixmystreet' submissions weren't in vain after all!

Info from CEC:
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General Details

As part of an investment in Edinburgh's roads and footpaths for 2012/13, the carriageway along South Gyle Crescent from Redheughs Avenue to South Gyle Crescent Lane is to be resurfaced. This section of the carriageway has been prioritised due to its current condition and the works will improve both travelling experience and visual appearance of the surface. The works is scheduled to commence on the 12th August 2012 and last approximately 7weeks depending on weather and other circumstances.

Road Use During the Works

To allow for the safe execution of the works a temporary traffic regulation order is in place to close the road during construction periods. The contractors operating times will be nightshift working from 6:00pm to 5:00am, Sunday to Thursday. Street notice signs will display changes to parking restrictions or access. Please make sure you do not park on-street and that all vehicles are removed from the location of the works during the times outlined above.

Posted 11 years ago #
chdot
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"works will improve both travelling experience and visual appearance of the surface"

Too much to hope they'll do anything about the parking or add cycle lanes.

Posted 11 years ago #
cb
Member

I worried that they say that the works will "last approximately 7weeks". Is that how long the repair will last?

Posted 11 years ago #
custard
Member

even more worrying
S Gyle Crec has just had major works for pipes/cables meaning it was closed off for weeks as they worked along.
So now the work done to fill in that trench is to be dug and redone.

Posted 11 years ago #
kaputnik
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@custard yes we recieved the same email at work. The bit at the S. Gyle Crescent / Redheughs Ave. roundabout has already been done.

The trench that was dug along S. Gyle Crescent and S. Gyle Access was the power cables from the Cutlin Roads transformers to the sub-station for the trams on Bankhead Drive. So naturally, there was no thought at all put into synchronising these sets of work.

Posted 11 years ago #
custard
Member

yeah I was along there today. nice and smooth at least.
Also 1st time I noticed the tram tracks that go right accross the road at the gyle centre

Posted 11 years ago #
kaputnik
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Also 1st time I noticed the tram tracks that go right accross the road at the gyle centre

Yes at an interesting angle too. I assume there will be sets of lights to stop people driving onto the tracks in queueing traffic and blocking the toy train.

Posted 11 years ago #
cb
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That's the only place west of Haymarket where there is actually any tram/car interaction unless you count the various lanes/driveways coming off the A8.

Posted 11 years ago #
Nelly
Member

Yes at an interesting angle too.

Drove over them sunday and then today return journey - dont think its the finished article - the road camber changes dramatically and any driver hitting it at anything above 25 will get a real jolt - although that may be intentional.

Posted 11 years ago #
kaputnik
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about half of Redheughs Avenue, between the roundabout and the entrance to 3 Redheughs Avenue (the 2nd RBS building) has been resurfaced.

Very welcome for cyclists and I'm sure bus passengers too. The previous amateur attempts at filling the big holes by pouring concrete into them (!) had the expected result of covering the road in piles of crushed concrete.

The part beyond, down to AEGON roundabout is still rubbish.

Posted 9 years ago #
cb
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Last week I had five days of commuting Morningside to Edinburgh Park. It didn't involve Redheughs Avenue, but I do have a question about South Gyle Broadway for the EP/SG regulars.

OSM seems to suggest that the pavement on the north side of the road is shared use, but I couldn't see any actual signs on the ground to back that up so in the end I used the bus lane (and anyway there were quite a few pedestrians on the pavement so cycing down it would have been not much fun).

Some more general observations on my commute:

- I think my favourite route was the one I tried first: Balcarres St, Ashley Terrace, Hutchison Crossway to Balgreen, then route 9 (continuing along South Gyle Road to get to EP).

- Going via the Craiglockhart woods/pond then via the canal was very pleasant and almost identical to the above route in terms of distance/time. Cultins Road not so good and no idea how you're *supposed* to get over the tram tracks. Link path from EP Station to EP was quite busy with peds.

- Broomhouse path alternative to route one was OK, but I got very lucky with the lights at the various crossings.

- I tried the path that loops round the north of Forresters. A bit b-b-b-bumpy and not sure now enjoyable it would be on a gloomy winter's evening.

- The one day I 'had' to take the car took the longest.

Posted 9 years ago #
chrisfl
Member

Hmmm, good question, it was originally added as a footway then upgraded to a cycleway.

http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/64816131/history

Possibly, moving it back to footway with bicycles as permissive might make sense?

Posted 9 years ago #
Nelly
Member

@cb

From Balgreen (Jenners) you can also nip onto the path alongside the tram which subsequently picks up the broomhouse path all the way to EP.

FWIW, I do some of your route daily and my variation is - Ashley Terrace, Slateford, Hutchison Crossway, Eltringham Terrace, (Pelican Crossing across) Gorgie Road, Fords Road, Stenhouse Cross, Broomhouse Path, cross tram tracks at EP station.

Posted 9 years ago #
kaputnik
Moderator

Okay so strictly speaking this refers to South Gyle Broadway / Access, not the Crescent, but this thread is close enough.

I noted yesterday that they're building on the wedge of land between Meadow Place / Broomhouse Road, the railway and the North Gyle estate, that used to be part of the St Augustine's School playing fields (before the campus co-located with Forrester).

There's a small footpath which skirts the boundary of this land alongside the railway, but it's not really a useful or suitable cycling route. I turned up the plans of the development on the planning portal (13/05183/FUL if you're intersted) and noted that it has a path connection to this footpath, as well as what seems to be a segregated path through the development footnoted as "3m wide footway/cycleway", which would give access between the existing dirt path and a new junction onto the Roundabout where South Gyle Crescent / Broadway and Access meet.

Posted 9 years ago #
Edinburgh Cycle Training
Member

Unfortunately, the "cycleway" through this development looks like it is just another shared use pavement, which is going to be intersected 9 times over its 125m main stretch. once by access to a car park, twice by roadways and 6 times by driveways.

I think I'd rather the developer was made to resurface the existing path.

Posted 9 years ago #
Edinburgh Cycle Training
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Is the "pavement" on the south side of South Gyle Crescent shared use?

The kerbs were dropped at all its road junctions a year or so back. The signage coming off the segregated Bankhead path suggests the continuing "pavement" is shared.

Posted 9 years ago #
HankChief
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@Kappers / Bikeability - that building site off South Gyle Wynd has decided that having an entrance off a residential road is terribly dangerous and put in a couple of tight chicanes...

Non compliant chicanes by HankChief, on Flickr

New (too narrow) chicanes by HankChief, on Flickr

I have let Persimmon know (via twitter) that they aren't compliant with the standard 3metres between barriers and a minimum 1.5m gap beside each barrier.

Not impressed and does give a worrying concern about how they make entrances safe...

Posted 9 years ago #
Edinburgh Cycle Training
Member

Maybe they are temporary?

Previously that was an entrance for future development so virtually no vehicles used it at all. With plant and site traffic - big tippers - using it regularly now, a more visible warning than just signs isn't a bad idea.

The site traffic tends to leave a lot of mud on that roundabout these days. Bit slippy for those of us on two wheels.

Posted 9 years ago #
HankChief
Member

I agree they are probably temporary and that there is an increased risk from all the tipper and delivery trucks coming and going with their poor visibility and large blindspots , it's just whether non compliant chicanes are the answer.

If the housebuilder doesn't think that compliant chicanes would mitigate the risk sufficiently then maybe they should employ someone akin to a lollipop person during peak times of kids going to & from the High Schools.

Posted 9 years ago #
HankChief
Member

Just heard on twitter that they have moved the chicanes...

May need a trip down via the Gyle to take a look.

Posted 9 years ago #
HankChief
Member

Hmmm. Just popped by the Gyle to see the newly adjusted chicane &...

...doesn't look like it has moved at all.

Disappointing to say the least

Posted 9 years ago #
HankChief
Member

From Persimmon Homes on twitter

@hank_chief Edinburgh City Council confirmed following inspection to the site, that the Chicane Barriers meet with their requirements. 1/2

@hank_chief These have been placed as a temporary measure to meet with traffic management requirements, residential area and nearby school.

Not sure why CEC think that cycling by design doesn’t apply here. I have asked...

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