resolvedHave to go to Warriston tomorrow. Probably cycling. Inclined to take NEPN along beside Ferry Road, then either chancelot or goldenacre path.
Any strong reasons why not to? eg mud?
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May already be too late SRD, but both paths you mentioned are tarmaced these days. They seem to have picked some kind of special tarmac for Chancelot Path which retains a thin, even sheen of water after rain and is rather slippy until it completely dries out. At least you shouldn't have the problem at this time of year of that sheen of water being frozen when you arrive on the path!
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I have never seen mud on those paths. Be aware that the roads around Warriston/Canonmills are an absolute forest of roadworks. Stay on the path as much as possible.
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Came up to town along Chancelot Path (I think - the one that starts opposite Chancelot Mill) and it was fine.
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There's some mud on the NEPN underneath the bridges through Pilton/Trinity - after the puddles receded there was a layer of slippy mud reducing the path to single-lane-width. Can't remember precisely which bridges but it was mostly on the south side of the path on the westward side of a couple of bridges, so being careful when approaching them all is best.
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Chancelot Path (I think - the one that starts opposite Chancelot Mill)
The Chancelot Path is the one that starts where the old Chancelot Mill used to be (to NE of the Bonnington level crossing, where the allotments are)
The path that comes out at the new Chancelot Mill is the Hawthornvale Path.
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thanks guys. we somehow missed the 5 ways junction and had to double back. not good navigating on our part.
not helped in that we were tandemming it, and i'd got my stockings covered in mud at that bad patch under bridge just before craigleith, so we had to detour to M&S to replace them, so we were in rather a rush. But not late, and not the only folk on bike.
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"i'd got my stockings covered in mud at that bad patch under bridge just before craigleith, so we had to detour to M&S to replace them"
That's a bit extreme!
This is a 'known problem'.
I know someone who got Scottish Water to visit the site. They said that it wasn't a leak.
I know someone who fell off last winter when it froze. I think someone different said, on here, that they'd fallen off too.
I know it's been mentioned to @north_team, but don't know about Clarence or FixMyStreet.
Time for action(?)
It's usually even worse under the bridge behind the camera.
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That cutting is quite bad. I think a ditch dug on each side and lined with stones (to stop blocking up with dallen debris) might help with drainage. The problem will be getting it paid for out of the public purse. Its very well used so one would think plenty of tax payers who deserve it.
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@north_team Can something get done about the #cyclepath drainage at #Craigleith Station please http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8176#post-81509 … #cycling #Edinburgh
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North Team @north_team@CyclingEdin Thanks, passed on to Roads/ estates team for a response
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North Team (@north_team)16/08/2012 09:53
@CyclingEdin colleagues in Cycle Projects have plans to improve drainage at 1/2dozen sites on the Roseburn Corridor, We will encourage this
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Cycling Edinburgh (@CyclingEdin)
16/08/2012 09:56
@north_team ThanksAny timescale for these improvements - #Craigleith Station in particular? IF NOT this year can there be extra GRIT??
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chdot "That's a bit extreme!"
I usually pack a spare pair. And usually manage to stick my legs up in the air, but the tandem pilot didn't give me enough warning.
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Quite clear here - the path profile is wrong relative to abutting ground. Big ditches are not always needed as they are easily blocked and can generate a concentrated flow of water encouraging scouring and erosion at critical points.
Essentially 2 details. 1 the path should have a profile that puts it above the abutting ground with shoulders of ballast/weak soil graded to slope away at around 1:40 for around a metre or back to the nearest vertical face. This area should be ruthlessly chain flailed so that only grass and small plants (clover etc) are growing there.
The longitudonal profile should be checked as well in case the removal of ballast and further material has created a low spot where previously water flowed out and on to lower levels. It might have been better when the path was originally laid out to have deliberate built up the longitudonal profile to ensure water always moves slowly down slope (max 1:20) towards places where it can run into lower ground or a watercourse. As a last resort a shallow depression (a sipe0 can lead away to the lower areas, and this would also be kept down as a well mown grass strip.
An annual pass with a boom mounted flail clearing a box at least a metre either side of the path surface and up 3 metres vertically keeps sightlines (and security) clear of encroaching bushes.
Careful planning to place lamp posts, seats, and signs clear of the flail corridor so that a tractor mounted unit with vanguards maintaining a safety envelope can rapidly cover substantial distances. This work carried out mid-late summer after birds have fledged and wildflower seed has set. Bushes may look a bit naked initially but soon turns green again.
Smooth surface is generally a very fine 'slurry coat' that seems to take longer to dry off after a shower but makes a very smooth surface to ride on. Cheaper solutions use a single pass of a dense bituminous macadam of a smaller 'size' than that used on a major road, as a cheaper single pass with the tarmac laying machinery, with a second option of 2 passes, and the second having a finer grade in a thinner layer.
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"An annual pass with a boom mounted flail clearing a box at least a metre either side of the path surface and up 3 metres vertically keeps sightlines (and security) clear of encroaching bushes."
I assume that, as far as Edinburgh goes, this is some kind of alternative reality you are describing?
Presumably this kind of attention to detail hasn't ever been done here?
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If you think Edinburgh's bad, try some of the paths in Fife. Dodging around overgrown brambles and nettles is pretty much routine. If wearing shorts and/or short sleeved top it is certainly worth testing your slalom riding skills!
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@north_team: @CyclingEdin
Just been told the Craigleith station cyle path will be done by 9th September. thanks
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Presumably this kind of attention to detail hasn't ever been done here?
The Union Canal path could do with a trim. A week or two ago it was getting narrow enough that I was having to ride through brambles while being passed by cyclists heading out of town.
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SRD said " I usually pack a spare pair. And usually manage to stick my legs up in the air, but the tandem pilot didn't give me enough warning."
Oh come on now SRD this is supposed to be a family freindly site!
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"Just been told the Craigleith station cyle path will be done by 9th September"
Anyone else holding their breath on this? I am moving to Inverleith on the 7th of September, and this path will become my regular commute to Broomhouse - rode it twice last week to try it, and on both (dry, warm) days I got muddy and wet.
It seems from the responses above that they council have already set a timescale for work on the path - I wonder which other sections they are planning on fixing?
Also as a side note, on both of my journeys last week there were large groups of kids hanging around on the path on the south side of the Ferry Road bridge, who took quite a lot of encouragement to move out of my way - is this normal, or just a symptom of the School holidays? (was at about 4pm)
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The schools in Edinburgh have been back for a few days already. Kids (and older 'yoof') hanging around the Ferry Road path is normal. To be fair, it's as much their path (if not more as they live there) as it is 'ours'.
Do you have a nice loud bell? If not, get one. I find a couple of well timed 'ching-ching' peals on the bell to give warning works very well. I always make a point of saying thanks or cheers if folk have to move out of my way. Keeps it civilised and helps defuse any simmering hostility from the inconvenienced party.
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if not more as they live there
Um, are you implying there's a "local paths for local people" rule in operation? In which case I'm off out on MMW this evening to push sticks through the front wheels of bikes going up and down - I wager there aren't many people using it that live as close as I do, thereby it's more my path than theirs.
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