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  • Started 11 years ago by chdot
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  1. gibbo
    Member

    The thing that stood out to me was David Walsh - who is in tight with Team Sky - saying to Lance that Lance's relationship with a tarnished doctor is unacceptable.

    Don't remember Walsh making similar statements when interviewing Brailsford, Wiggins, Froome.

    A depressing reminder of how the same warning signs that were ignored 15 years ago are still being ignored.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  2. PS
    Member

    I'm not sure anyone can say Team Sky have been given a free ride over Geert Leinders. Walsh has written about it in detail, criticising Brailsford's judgement.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  3. Min
    Member

    I think not liking Lance Armstrong has quite a bit to do with it. I read this book and it made me pretty angry as the author was pretty open about the fact that he was going after Lance Armstrong because when he got famous he stopped returning his calls etc and that he was fine about Hincapie and Millar and so on taking drugs because he liked them. :-/

    Posted 9 years ago #
  4. PS
    Member

    I watched the Storyville documentary on the iPlayer last night. I'd recommend it as a good, easily digestable summary of the Armstrong doping story.

    It didn't add anything that hadn't been in the public domain for years in books like Walsh's From Lance to Landis (2007), but in amongst all the evidence of bad behaviour it did give some clear insight into why that group of American cyclists started doping. I don't condone what they did by any means, but I understand why they did it.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  5. Kenny
    Member

    Just finished watching Storyville. If you've not read it, I suggest you go read The Secret Race by Tyler Hamilton (and Daniel Coyle). About 90% of what was in Storyville is in that book, as far as I recall.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  6. chdot
    Admin

    "

    Meanwhile, no interview with Fox can avoid Sheridan. Is his old enemy making a referendum comeback? "I couldn't care," he says. "Tommy Sheridan is the Lance Armstrong of Scottish politics. The only difference is that Lance Armstrong finally admitted what he did.

    "

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/referendum-news/the-middle-classes-in-scotland-are-complacent-they-pay-lip-service-to-pover.25053495

    Posted 9 years ago #
  7. chdot
    Admin

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    I'd probably cheat again - Armstrong

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/30981609

    Posted 9 years ago #
  8. Kenny
    Member

    That headline is pretty bad. In the same circumstances and at the same time, he'd do the same thing. Not really that surprising, considering his justification (that everyone else was doing it). Aargh, I'm feeling empathy for him again. Must try to suppress it...

    Posted 9 years ago #
  9. condor2378
    Member

    Wow. He got old.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  10. paddyirish
    Member

    My overwhelming feeling still is that he is only sorry that he got caught.

    Lots of other dopers, but still feel that his behaviour towards others is what marks him out to be made an example of. Hope that there is no leniency.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  11. Min
    Member

    This time, he hits and runs.

    Only cars damaged fortunately.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  12. gembo
    Member

    He has opened a coffee shop across from evans. I had double espresso takeaway on way home the other night and beat all the Juan pelota strava KoMs on way up lanark road.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  13. chdot
    Admin

    "

    Cycling Weekly (@cyclingweekly)
    23/06/2015 09:58
    Tinkoff-Saxo stand by Nicki Sorensen after doping admission |

    http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/former-tinkoff-saxo-rider-nicki-sorensen-admits-to-doping-in-his-career-178187

    http://pic.twitter.com/lAgpKVUW40

    "

    Posted 8 years ago #
  14. chdot
    Admin

    I'm not putting this in this thread because of 'suspicion' - more of a contrast.

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    Chris Froome admits missing out-of-competition drugs tests Team Sky rider says 2 tests missed 5 years apart - the latest when hotel staff refused to let testers see him

    "

    http://www.road.cc/content/news/155077-chris-froome-admits-missing-out-competition-drugs-tests

    Posted 8 years ago #
  15. chdot
    Admin

  16. chdot
    Admin

    "

    @cyclingweekly: New trailer for Lance Armstrong film ‘The Program’ looks stunning (video) | http://t.co/sNUfwqFDbZ http://t.co/797wwHadWw

    "

    Posted 8 years ago #
  17. chdot
    Admin

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    @theprogramfilm: From director Stephen Frears, discover the thrilling true story of the rise and fall of Lance Armstrong, on Oct 16

    https://t.co/FjDy6JWiCr

    "

    Posted 8 years ago #
  18. chdot
    Admin

  19. nobrakes
    Member

    The world is utterly stupid.

    This equates to (roughly, within an order of magnitude or so) the fine you might expect in our courts if you mow down 80000 pedestrians in your car.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  20. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @nobrakes

    Lance messed with money. Kill who you like, but do not mess with big brands.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  21. nobrakes
    Member

    Aye, exactly.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  22. acsimpson
    Member

    I might be sticking my head above the parapet on this one but personally I agree with Lance that it should be thrown out of court.

    These brands benefited from Lance's misdemeanours even more than he did. Their reputation hasn't been damaged by his actions either as they didn't condone or encourage them (at least that's what we are lead to believe).

    For instance I'm sure US Postal made back their sponsorship many times over during the Lance era and are not losing any business now due to it either.

    I can see why competitors and team mates might have a case but not the sponsors. Let's assume Floyd Landis was clean for instance he could presumably have earned more if Lance wasn't cheating. Likewise FedEx might have a case as their competitor US Postal was benefiting from Lance's cheating. However IANAL so what do I know.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  23. chdot
    Admin

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    Whatever your opinion on Lance Armstrong, liking his podcast is not a sin

    "

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/jul/22/lance-armstrong-podcast-tour-de-france-cycling

    Posted 6 years ago #
  24. Rosie
    Member

    I just watched the film Lance on BBC I-player. Not only a fascinating picture of a cycling warlord, but that Tour de France thingie looks quite exciting. I might catch some of it when it starts off again.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  25. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Me too. It was well done. Everyone got the space required to show who and what they are, especially Mr Armstrong.

    Posted 3 years ago #

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