Someone's probably said it before but York city centre could teach Edinburgh several things about providing parking for bicycles. I'd've taken some photos had I not been bairnwrangling but it feels like pretty much every third street corner has a big pile of Sheffield racks.
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Rack removal - Rose Street
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Posted 12 years ago #
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From the business plan, under 'Accessibility', 5 year budget £235,000 (£43,000 this year):
- To champion a breakthrough parking initiative – possible underground
towards west end of George Street.
- Develop a coordinated signage plan incorporating visitor access points
and business location finding (maps and directories).
- Improved access and storage facilities for cyclists.Posted 12 years ago # -
@SRD & crowriver - improved from when? From before they ripped out the Sheffield stands or from the current wheelbenders?
A bit like a shop putting up their prices, then having a sale...
Robert
Posted 12 years ago # -
@Roibeard, this is where the business plan appears to conflict with the 'Rose Street Project': http://www.essentialedinburgh.co.uk/ee-subpage.aspx?pageID=167
Specifically:
The Key Priorities are:
• Creating a traffic management plan that can be easily enforced
• Create welcoming and interesting entrances
• Establish a year round activity plan
• Improve the Public Realm (lighting/street furniture/surfaces)Traffic Management
• Establish an optimal traffic plan
• Establish measures to enforce it (such as the use of Large Planters, ,trees and extended outdoor seating)
• Encourage pedestrians to flow along the full length of Rose Street .And:
Activity Plan
• Create spaces and facilities to allow entertainment, events and markets to take place along the length of Rose Street
It's that last bit that got the cycle parking removed.
Devil in the detail, as ever...
Posted 12 years ago # -
I've just heard back from Essential Edinburgh about bike parking at the Lothian Road / Shandwick Place junction. They say "Thank you very much for you e-mail regarding bicycle parking facilities, however you need to direct your request to City of Edinburgh Council as we do not have any responsibility for that area."
Checking the map of the EE area I see that where I was is indeed a couple of paces outside of the area.
Edit: I've now mailed the request to cycling@edinburgh.gov.uk.Posted 12 years ago # -
Essential Edinburgh (@EssentialEdin)
19/10/2012 13:13
@SRDEdinburgh @planningedin @Edinburgh_CC There'll be new sheffield stands installed soon on Rose St.We've put a temporary rack in currentlyPosted 12 years ago # -
Oooh. Well done SRD for following that up.
I do wonder though what was wrong with the old Sheffield stands? Too much 'visual clutter'? In the way of street stalls?
Posted 12 years ago # -
So they removed Sheffeild stands temporarly and bought wheel benders as a temp replacement? They planned to move the original stands all along? Why didn't they just move the stands in the first place rather than waste cash buying, installing and then removing wheel benders? Dhoop!!!
Posted 12 years ago # -
thinking positively,maybe plan is to have all new matching sheffields. question then is, what happens to old ones? redeployed? or junked?
Posted 12 years ago # -
@DaveC: I guess it explains why "infrastructure" ends up costing so much... so depressing though :(
Posted 12 years ago # -
...Essential Edinburgh did indeed junk the old rack about a month ago as part of the 'decluttering' in advance of the poetic-redesigning of this end of rose street. The chap I spoke to was really helpful and put the temporary rack in (better than nothing and at least maintains use of this space as somewhere to park your bike). I gather that the long-term plan has been to place racks at either end of each stretch of rose street thereby leaving the central areas free for markets/cafe's etc. My point is that in Holland bike racks are everywhere making cycling safer (no walking around in the dark - Essential Edinburgh also 'decluttered' all the lighting along this stretch a month ago), more convenient therefore more folks will cycle around town and finally, you can keep an eye on your bike thus reducing thefts etc. If you truly want to design a cycle friendly city centre/encourage cycling, it's clear that this is the way to go but sadly, i agree that it doesn't bring in revenue in the way that cars and street markets do. Essential Edinburgh also showed me a new, covered, but absolutely unused, bike rack behind the pub (same area but down a lane which runs in-between and parallel to princess st and rose st). This has space for probably 15 bikes or so but is, quite understandably, never used....I struggle with the concept of parking my bike down a dark alley, next to a couple of skips, in an area that is not overlooked, has minimal lighting and very few passers-by but the council are frustrated that they have provided a rack that no-body uses…. When they finally start replacing the racks on rose street I'm hoping they see sense and we get the old rack back in situ, next to the police box - which apparently cannot be 'decluttered'....
Posted 12 years ago # -
"This has space for probably 15 bikes or so but is, quite understandably, never used....I struggle with the concept of parking my bike down a dark alley, next to a couple of skips, in an area that is not overlooked, has minimal lighting and very few passers-by"
I think you are right - but presumably people don't know it's there either!
Posted 12 years ago # -
Well I certainly never knew it was there and would be reluctant to leave my bike locked up out of sign to the bulk of the public passing by.
Posted 12 years ago # -
What next? A rack where every stand has a mother bear to the left and her cub to the right?
Posted 12 years ago # -
An update… Essential Edinburgh have confirmed that they will be replacing racks along this part of rose street. Their plans show 3 racks next to the Roxburghe, 3 opposite the Amber Rose and they are replacing the temporary racks next to the police box in the middle of this section with an additional 3.
Posted 11 years ago # -
"Their plans"
Link?
Posted 11 years ago # -
...help! I have the plans attached to an e-mail but if you can send idiot-proof instructions I will happily attempt to link them!
Posted 11 years ago # -
Email to info@citycyclingedinburgh.info and I'll deal with it.
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Posted 11 years ago #
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Will be interesting to see how the new "Westernised" regime running the Polis respond to this.
Posted 11 years ago # -
"
Neighbouring residents, Police Scotland, local businesses and the New Town Community Council all opposed the pub bid led by Glendola Leisure.Superintendent Matt Richards said granting the application “ran counter” to police anti-social behaviour campaigns and would create another “hot spot” for hard-pressed officers to prioritise.
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http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/rose-street-superpub-snubbed-by-planners-1-3238104
Posted 11 years ago # -
Noticed this the other day in Roae St South Lane between Charlotte and Castle:
IMG_20150820_140033006 by wingpig, on Flickr
Posted 9 years ago # -
That's actually a pretty space efficient design, and good locking options. Only downside appears to be that the bikes are kept upright by a wheelbender-style bit at the rear wheel, unless I'm missing something?
Posted 9 years ago # -
Other downside is that there appears to be a motorcyle blocking most of the racks.
Posted 9 years ago #
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