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"Calls for cyclists to be rerouted amid Pedal safety worries"

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  1. chdot
    Admin

    http://scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/latest-news/calls-for-cyclists-to-be-rerouted-amid-pedal-safety-worries-1-2507121


    They should just pull it back to Queensferry Road and block off a lane.
    "

    Can't disagree with that!

    Posted 12 years ago #
  2. Instography
    Member

    When I did it last year, that's exactly what I did (apart from the lane closure) - headed along Queensferry Road, over to Maybury and along Corstorphine Road - knowing that the Cramond bit would be a mess and that the wee path between the golf courses would be a huge bottleneck. Still, they'll maybe cut back the nettles on that path.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  3. kaputnik
    Moderator

    That the article used "speeding" in the first paragraph really sets the tone.

    A bike doing 15mph is "speeding". A car doing 15mph is being held up, and it's not until it's doing at least 30 is it speeding, even then it's "otherwise law abiding" speeding.

    They could paint double yellow on that wee road that goes betwixt the old bridge alongside the horse paddock to provide much more extra space? According to concerned of Cramond, one of the cyclists "collided with a car". Problem seems to be too many cars badly parked on a narrow road.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  4. Cyclops
    Member

    http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/transport/cyclists-are-urged-to-take-a-brake-after-third-accident-within-month-1-1910880

    Looks like he manages to get the same complaint in the EEN about once a year.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  5. Dave
    Member

    http://mccraw.co.uk/ncn1nimby/

    Posted 12 years ago #
  6. Instography
    Member

    TBH I think they have a reasonable point both about the speeds that individual cyclists take the hill /corner / bridge and bend at the Cramond Brig and the inadequacy of that bridge / road for 9000 cyclists.

    I think you'd make a better point by looking past the nimbyism, acknowledging the crapness of the NCN1 from the end of Barnton Avenue to, actually, I don't know where it gets good. It's pretty crap all the way to Fife.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  7. scotti
    Member

    I'm not surprised there have been "collisions" I had an idiot in a car overtake me when I was heading west down the hill, just as we were going into the dark tunnel caused by the trees. It's narrow, the surface is crap, and there are cars parked all over the place.

    Have to agree with Insto's point about NCN1 being bad all the way to Fife.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  8. DaveC
    Member

    They could solve this by building a bridge at cramond and surfacing the path to S Queensferry. Of course all the boat owners would winge then...

    Posted 12 years ago #
  9. scotti
    Member

    That would be my preferred option Dave, it would probably be cheaper to implement than the new ferry or getting the A90 path up to a safe standard for everyone to use.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  10. Instography
    Member

    They could solve it by building a segregated path from the Cramond Brig to the Dean Bridge.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  11. cb
    Member

    I don't think the NCN is particularly bad at the point. It goes along a fairly quiet dead end road; it was resurfaced not that long ago.

    Ok, it can't cope with 9000 cyclists on the same event, but I don't think we should be designing our NCN to cope with those numbers (not yet anyway).

    North and west of the Cramond Brig is rubbish though.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  12. crowriver
    Member

    I have to say, some very funny comments on the EEN story.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  13. minus six
    Member

    I don't think the NCN is particularly bad at the point

    Au contraire, that's the worst part of the NCN between Edinburgh and Fife.

    The old Cramond Brig road is prime untethered dog walking territory, for boomers who park their cars up at the hotel.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  14. Dave
    Member

    I'm sure I know the answer to this, but can anyone confirm that:

    a) 90,000 people did cycle on this part of NCN1 last weekend
    b) nobody was slaughtered by speeding cyclists

    ?

    Posted 12 years ago #
  15. HankChief
    Member

    I think it was (only) 7,600 who tackled the 47 Challengeride...

    I went down there at lunchtime with the kids and all was flowing smoothly -There is a good playpark on the city side of the bridge - but don't tell anyone that you're not local ;-)

    There were copious marshalls around telling everyone to slow down, which they were.

    Interestingly, there was a car parked outside the bottom house on the decent, narrowing the road considerably - which struck me of stubborness of the part of the resident as it could have been placed out of the way in the pub car park.

    That all being said, PfS should be applauded for having marshalls positioned there. I was at the same point 2 years ago and I can clearly remember hearing (& seeing) the constant squeaking of brakes as cyclists were getting caught out by the sharp corner and dodgy surface just after the bridge.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  16. Dave
    Member

    Thanks - I wanted to add a wee postscript to my rant. Had there been mass carnage it would have been more debateable, of course :)

    Posted 12 years ago #
  17. Instography
    Member

    @Dave
    Remember to wonder whether, had Mr Nimby not staged his annual Nimby photocall, PfS would have marshalled that part as well as they seem to have.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  18. minus six
    Member

    @hankchief

    Interestingly, there was a car parked outside the bottom house on the decent, narrowing the road considerably

    This selfishly parked car has been there for many many years.

    I used to find it particularly hazardous to negotiate on dark winter mornings, especially when you add black ice and early dog walkers in the mix.

    I now find it far less troublesome to cycle along the main dual carriageway instead.

    Posted 12 years ago #

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