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"Clampdown on fine dodgers"

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  1. chdot
    Admin

    "FINE dodging drivers who repeatedly fail to pay parking tickets are set to be clamped as council bosses today vowed to get tough on persistent offenders in the Capital."

    http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/topstories/Clampdown-on-fine-dodgers.6314636.jp

    Posted 13 years ago #
  2. Kim
    Member

    'bout time to!

    Posted 13 years ago #
  3. recombodna
    Member

    But they're illegal aparently
    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2010/04/19/parking-fines-in-edinburgh-have-been-illegal-for-more-than-a-decade-claims-former-police-chief-86908-22195894/
    I don't get many parking tickets but I got 2 last year when I was working in a top floor flat in morningside. One for having my offside front wheel 2 inches over a white line and another for feeding the meter.That's a bit pedantic in my book. The meter feeding was ridiculous as I moved my van, was away for 45 mins and parked in a different space when I got back. no return within an hour means no return to the same bay and a bay can be a whole street as it's the 'spaces' between the poles.
    I understand them ticketing illegally parked vehicles but when ye've paid the ticket and are in the middle of humping 20 sheets of gyproc to the top floor you'd think they'd cut you some slack.......

    Posted 13 years ago #
  4. Kim
    Member

    I do have some sympathy with those parking trade vehicle, the real problem is car drivers who are just too lazy to walk a few hundred meters.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  5. Dave
    Member

    I think this is part of the reason why people hate parking offences so much.

    You can see people double parked (on the double yellows on both sides of the road) outside the corner shop on Leith Links for much of the day, every day. I've seen a warden there once in 9 months!

    Yet, you can be booked for being in a valid parking space but slightly outside it, and the fine is the same. Only one of those things is really causing hazard/inconvenience.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  6. SRD
    Moderator

    But this is about 'catching' people who regularly dodge fines. presumably they aren't people 'caught out' by persnickety wardens, but people who either persistently flout the rules, or who are such bad drivers that their parking repeatedly goes outside the lines etc, and then repeatedly fail to pay fines. What's wrong with that?

    Posted 13 years ago #
  7. recombodna
    Member

    The thing is there's already legislation in place to deal with unpaid parking tickets and the police and the dvla have the power to impound your car if it's not registered, taxed ,mot'ed or insured. the people who are dodging these fines are 'probably' guilty of much greater offences. police have ANPR camera's and so do some car parks and super markets they also have them at the airport. Do we really need some private company driving round clamping the 100 or so people in this city that have a number of unpaid parking tickets? One thing's for sure... we certainly won't have any say in it whatever happens.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  8. I've had two parking tickets. The first I knew exactly what I was doing - I had to nip into town to pick some stuff up (that I couldn't carry on the bike before anyone chirps up!) and parking spaces were like gold dust - so on Thistle Street there are a couple of short single-yellow sections between parking bays, which I parked in. Got a ticket in the 20 minutes I was away - paid up with no complaining.

    Second one I was moving out of a flat in Comely Bank. 11pm one night I popped back for a couple of things and with nowhere to park I stopped on a double-yellow. I was away 5 minutes max and came back to a ticket. I paid up, cos I was in the wrong, but asked in the letter why I'd got a ticket for having half the car on a double-yellow, when down the street were about a dozen cars double-parked (as was common on Comely Bank Avenue at the time). I got a reply (which suggested, incorrectly, I was trying to get out of the fine, since I'd included a cheque for it in the envelope) that double-parking was a police enforcement matter over which the meanies had no authority. So next time I made sure I double-parked...

    Interestingly, the same flat the Christmas before I'd been heading up north on Christmas Eve. It was again after 11pm, on Christmas Eve, and I'd brought presents down to the car which I had double parked for even less time. I'm sat in the car and get my phone out to call my folks to say I was leaving, and a police car slowly rolls alongside, winds the window down, and asks me to move on as I'm causing an obstruction. Must have been in the middle of a particularly boring shift!

    Posted 13 years ago #
  9. cb
    Member

    You are allowed to park on a yellow / double-yellow for loading unloading purposes (which I think should allow you to be away from your vehicle for 5 mins or so).
    It's the loading restriction markings that you need to look out for.

    Don't know the full ins and outs of what constitutes loading. "I was parked on the double yellow so that I could load my wallet with money from the cash machine". Don't think that would work.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  10. I can imagine at 11pm it probably looked like I had stopped there for the night - was definitely away from the car for a mere 5 minutes though!

    Posted 13 years ago #
  11. chdot
    Admin

  12. recombodna
    Member

    Double yellow=instant ticket 24 hrs
    single yellow = 5 mins wait
    single yellow with little yellow stripes up over the kerb = instant ticket no waiting

    Posted 13 years ago #
  13. chdot
    Admin

    @recombodna

    thought it also depended on number of stripes on kerb(?)

    Posted 13 years ago #
  14. cb
    Member

    Double yellow = no waiting at any time, but you may load/unload (which could involve being away from your vehicle for several minutes)

    The stripes up and over the kerb refer to the loading restrictions. A double stripe means no loading/unloading at any time , but, "You may stop while passengers board or alight".

    http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg/groups/dg_digitalassets/@dg/@en/documents/digitalasset/dg_070563.pdf

    Posted 13 years ago #
  15. chdot
    Admin

    "Double yellow = no waiting at any time, but you may load/unload (which could involve being away from your vehicle for several minutes)"

    Never really understood the logic of that!

    Posted 13 years ago #
  16. recombodna
    Member

    Well this is only what a traffic warden told me. When you start to think about it it's a bit complicated eh?

    Posted 13 years ago #
  17. Kim
    Member

    Cargo bike anyone? ;-)

    Posted 13 years ago #
  18. Cargo bike anyone? ;-)

    It's on the list... :D

    Posted 13 years ago #

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