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Audaxes + sportifs 2013

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  1. DaveC
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    *** Its on!! ***

    I have confirmation from Alex Paterson that I can ride the route I made up! So if anyone budding Audaxers who can't make the Guy Fawkes on Saturday your welcome to join Uberuce and me. I have a few brevet cards, Just let me know before Friday and you can join us on Saturday morning at Dalgety Bay train station, 8am.

    Dalgety Bay to Crail
    Crail to Newport-on-Tay
    Newport-on-Tay to Auchterarder
    Auchterarder to Dollar
    Dollar to Dalgety Bay.

    Stopping for lunch at Newport around 1pm I imagine.

    Dave C

    Disclaimer - if its chucking it down, or blowong a gale, I won't be riding!

    Posted 12 years ago #
  2. crowriver
    Member

    I have a few brevet cards, Just let me know before Friday and you can join us on Saturday morning at Dalgety Bay train station, 8am.

    Methinks if anyone else wants to ride your DIY as an actual Audax (rather than just tagging along, sans brevet) they need to send an entry (and payment) to Alex in advance. I think they might need to be AUK members too.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  3. Cyclops
    Member

    Crowriver is right - anyone wanting to do it as a DIY audax as opposed to just a bike ride will need to get an entry to Alex before they ride.

    AUK non-members can ride DIY but unless you really want a piece of cardboard to commemorate the event you're just as well tagging along without entering - non-members don't get points or their result recorded which is the whole point of DIY's really

    Posted 12 years ago #
  4. DaveC
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    Yes your right Cyclops. If I could have ridden Lucy's Guy Fawkes I would have done. Sadly she's under other pressures at the mo and not accepting any more entries. I've been a day pass and before the winter sets in I thought I'd see how the process of setting up a route would be.

    Gav, Steve and I have been talking about setting up a Fife 200 which includes West Lomond. I\ve got a course which does a big cross through Fife which is over 200 and may consider it as a calander event.

    Dalgety Bay - Falkland (over West Lomond) - Newport-on-Tay - Newburgh - Crail - Dalgety Bay. We could get the church hall as a finish point with a train station nearby. Alternatively use Lochore Meadows as a start and finish point, good parking tarin station etc.. and a room we could potentially rent. I'm still looking into this.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  5. DrAfternoon
    Member

    Been plotting my route for Guy Fawkes on Saturday.
    Can have a look here:

    http://bikeroutetoaster.com/Course.aspx?course=475993

    Toaster very usefully works out the elevation and gives you a cue sheet.

    For some reason I thought it had 3000m of climbing and have been a bit terrified since feeling fairly destroyed after doing half of that over the Lammermuirs, but it's not actually so bad, under 1800. Only bit I'm not quite decided on is the route from Innerleithen to Galashiels, but I'm biking down there that way on Friday, so I'll get some practise!

    Posted 12 years ago #
  6. Cyclops
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    I've ridden the Guy Fawkes a few times and it has a lot more than 1800m climbing. Sadly, bikeroutetoaster is one of the many online mapping programs that underestimates climbing. I prefer ridewithgps as it gives a pretty accurate climbing figure and this gives 2800m climbing which feels about right.

    Although the road from Innerleithen to Gala along the south side of the Tweed is a lot quieter I'm not sure I'd fancy it in the dark as there's a few steep descents and no white lines along this road. Also as it's dark you can't see the views which are one of the best bits of this road.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  7. DaveC
    Member

    Cyclops, you could have hidden the truth from DrAfternoon.. ;-)

    Its not so bad DrAfternoon, the climb is very shallow and you'll hardly notice it, really!!

    Posted 12 years ago #
  8. crowriver
    Member

    When I see a ride profile that looks like this, a little voice goes "Yeah, maybe next year." ;-)

    Posted 12 years ago #
  9. recombodna
    Member

    I might chicken out and go for a nice wee portovelo run on sunday.... Coming down with a bit of a cold.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  10. amir
    Member

    I'd definitely do it if I wasn't injured. The forecast looks good if a little chilly. Going long distances with a cold isn't so much fun though.

    I'll be turning my mind to 2013 soon.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  11. DaveC
    Member

    Oh c'mon Murry!! Its not so bad. Its never steep and the climb is very gentle as you climb up to the top. There is a nice gentle slope down to the Buddist retreat (around 37 miles on the graph) before a gentle climb up to the weeeeee down to the valley beofre another very gentle over to Lockerbie.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  12. Cyclops
    Member

    Dave, you do know Guy Fawkes only uses about 50% of the roads we rode on a fortnight ago? It's a whole lot of different climbs from the New Season Brevet.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  13. DaveC
    Member

    Yes but the climbing on the New Season Brevet was like a mirror of the first half of the profile above and the overall climbing is not much more than the New Season Brevet. I know its only 50% but the first 50% wasn't too taxing. I di o admit I haven't ridden the second half. Is the climbing in the second half much steeper than the first half?

    Posted 12 years ago #
  14. Cyclops
    Member

    You lose the flat bit from Langholm to Gretna and gain the very lumpy road to Lockerbie and back. Then after Tushielaw you've got Berrybush (Cat1 climb on the Tour of Britain) and Paddock Slack.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  15. crowriver
    Member

    As I believe I said earlier, I reckon it's called the Buddhisy retreat due to the profile's similarity to the mountains of Tibet...

    Posted 12 years ago #
  16. DrAfternoon
    Member

    Yes, it seems Toaster makes a somewhat optimistic assessment. Oh dear! At least the wind is forecast to be favourable on the most hilly part.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  17. recombodna
    Member

    Just been offered a well paid gig tonight that finishes at 3am......that's made the decision for me.....

    Posted 12 years ago #
  18. crowriver
    Member

    Wonder how the various Audaxers are getting on today?

    I suppose DaveC might already be finished his Fife DIY, or pretty close? However I supect the hardy souls on the Guy Fawkes Buddhist Retreat will still be making knee-popping climbs as I type...

    Posted 12 years ago #
  19. Cyclops
    Member

    If the pictures on FB from the Guy Fawkes are anything to go by sensible riders will have traded their bikes for huskies and a sled.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  20. crowriver
    Member

    The only Guy Fawkes I saw this evening was sitting atop a blazing bonfire...

    Posted 12 years ago #
  21. Uberuce
    Member

    DaveC and I are back and in good cheer. I've got 133 miles on the clock, but some of them are the rides to and from flat<->Haymarket and Dalgety<->Dave's.

    A wee bit of ice in patches until midmorning, a very welcome dose of sun from Newport to Auchterarder, then it was lights on and a temperature plummet that had me(at least) glad to see hills rearing up before us since they're cosy.

    The interior of Fife's well known to be lovely so I was almost taking it for granted, but I've not been along the north coast of it. I've seen it a bajillion times, being a Forfar lad, but I've not seen the north bank of the Tay from that angle. It looked spectacular today. Millpond calm and an ice blue sky made for serious eye candy.

    I know I'm not a reliable reviewer since I've only ever tried a single-speed flat bar over such distance, but I'd say the Croix is a hell of an Audax bike. Very comfy, weather-mocking brakes, all the gears I need.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  22. PS
    Member

    Good work. I've only had a few rides into Fife, and they've only really taken me as far as Dunfermline and Aberdour, so I really should start exploring that way next year.

    Locals tell me that there aren't any quiet roads (and lots of overly confident youthful drivers) from the bridge inland, but I can't believe that's true...?

    Posted 12 years ago #
  23. Dave
    Member

    I've never really ridden in Fife apart from the bridge to work in Dunfermline and from the bridge to Perth (on the Nippy Sweetie). Both of those are OK but in my head, Fife is like East Lothian, full of crazy drivers on narrow roads... sounds like this route may be worth a spring repeat?

    I'm in the process of buying parts for my super secret PBP2015 bike now, and when it's ready I'll be back on the calendar events looking for an SR in the current season. Should be fun!

    Although I couldn't make any rides this weekend I did use the enthusiasm the idea provoked to finally write up the Erit Lass on my blog...

    Posted 12 years ago #
  24. DrAfternoon
    Member

    Hello all, not long back from Galashiels. Had an excellent time on the Guy Fawkes. We did have snow coming down and on the road on the way over from Selkirk to Samye Ling, and there were mutterings from quite a few over cake and hot chocolate of giving up the game, but it brightened up later and turned into a lovely day.

    Fairly easy run down to Langholm, then a tough up and down ride over to Lockerbie, but after lunch at Cafe 91 (thanks to DaveC for the mention) it was looking perfectly doable. Long climbs back up to Samye Ling, but a gorgeous road, and a stop for more hot chocolate, this the full on cream and marshmallows version that I'd spotted earlier. Then the long repeat section to the fork toward Innerleithen, big climb then a long downhill and flat. On my own by this stage, had been with four other chaps but the three serious roadies were well well ahead by now and I was climbing faster than the other chap (who was on a very nice Van Nicholas titanium).

    The B709 was the bit I was dreading, two big climbs on the profile with a hundred miles on the legs already, and the main worry for the weather. But it was still light when I got to the turn, and the snow was mostly gone, so went for it, and I actually really enjoyed it. The climbs are very long but not ever horribly steep and the long downhill in between was enough recovery. It was getting dark on the second climb but I quite like night cycling and very exciting to bomb down the hill to Innerleithen with just the bike light blazing.

    Stuck to the main road back along to Galashiels. Not the most lovely bit, but fast and went pretty quick apart from a stop to replace light batteries. My Hope Vision 1 is a great light but suddenly shuts off rather than fading when it loses power which is not brilliant in the pitch dark 5 miles short of Gala on the A72! Perfectly timed fireworks as I arrived back though.

    So, final control 18.44 after an 0800 start. 8.5 hours riding. I stayed in a B&B Friday and Saturday and had a very leisurely ride home today over the Moorfoots.

    Only traumatic bit was a puncture on the way down on Friday. I was up high and it was freezing cold, tough business with numb fingers, but all came good, and bike was great otherwise.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  25. DaveC
    Member

    Hey Chapeau chap, as I've heard many an Audaxer congratulate other Audaxers. (I'm still unsure if the exact translation though). Good going to cycle down there, ride round and then cycle back! I'm mightily impressed!!

    I have a wonder about what lights to get for fast desents now. Cycling back from Saline to wards Dunfermline there were a few long steep descents which I'm comfirtable with as I've ridden them plenty of times but my lights were not quite cutting through the dark enough to highlight up the road. I've seen pics of Cree lights and am toying with the idea of getting one (or two) with a switch on the handlebars so I can 'dip' them if vehicles approach from the other way. My B&M does fine for winter commutes but for flying down pitch black country roads at speed I need something else.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  26. DaveC
    Member

    I enjoyed the Fife Circle (hey I think I've found a name.) audax. It was cool (5-7 degrees) most of the day but warmed up as we left Newport on Tay with no wind (as we were at sea level) and bathed in sun climbing. Then later the head wind wasn't so bad as we headed between bridge of Earn and Auchterarder. Dark by the time we arrived at Dollar to buy spare batteries for one of my rear lights and Bruce's only rear. I had three rear lights, bar end Tac lights and a blinky armband as well as my dayglow vest so I lend Bruce a light which saved the day. 211km in 8hrs38mins ride time. Set off after 8 & arrived back at 18.35.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  27. Uberuce
    Member

    I confess I'd forgotten to top up the battery on my NiteRider 650 - it had only seen two hours commute since last charge so I knew it would have enough juice for three-ish more on the 300 lumen setting, but for those plummets and for that section with the armchair-sized lumps in the road I wished I could have whapped it on the full 650 without worrying it'd conk out.

    I was basically working on the logic that if I'd seen you take line x and not explode, then line x was good for me too.

    I briefly put it on full power at one point uphill, don't know if you noticed. It pokes a pretty long way into the dark, although it's not very roadie lensed; more of an offroader's light.

    Next after-dark Audaxy thing I do, I'm bringing more shiny things, that's fer sure. I've a couple more beefy rears I should have brought and it might be time to upgrade the brickie's vest to something less flappy.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  28. PS
    Member

    Always worthwhile having one more good light than you think you'll need on a night ride. I was going to get another 600 lumen one this year (before my achilles saved me the money) after the experience of a ride last year where my Niterider ran out of juice just before Bonnyrigg. 30 mins less juice in it and I'd have been descending off the granites with not much more than a couple of blinky LEDs to light the way.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  29. DaveC
    Member

    Oh I'm veering towards Christmas Tree. Tis (nearly) the season...

    Posted 12 years ago #
  30. Uberuce
    Member

    My water bottle fell out after a pothole bump, so I dropped a few hundred metres back from DaveC and can confirm that from that distance he doesn't look like anything but a cyclist and is ludicrously visible. This was well into proper dark.

    Posted 12 years ago #

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