You would be advised to slow down and use the chequerplated bits on the sides.
Interesting choice of surface materials.
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FYI - Top of Broughton Street going North
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Posted 12 years ago #
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FFS! WTF? And other sweary TLA's.
Thanks very much for the heads up, I'd have hit that in the dark and rain tonight.
Posted 12 years ago # -
Do they put any thought into any of these roadworks?
(as an aside I saw a car yesterday with a numberplate ending 'FFS')
Posted 12 years ago # -
I am sure it aids traffic flow in some way.
The pedestrian phase they have put in at that point is disgustingly short. You have to wait ages and ages and ages at a junction where there are either so many cars that nobody going north is actually moving, but you can't cross because those going south are. Or there are not that many so that there are tempting gaps but they come so fast and so unexpectedly from Picardy Place roundabout that you still can't cross. Then there is about three seconds for the huge build up of pedestrians to squeeze their way across such that that last few times I have done it, I haven't even been halfway across before the lights have changed.
Hate, hate, hate this dump.
Posted 12 years ago # -
@Min, we'll all have to run off to the Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden or northern Germany then. Even Norway would be an improvement.
Posted 12 years ago # -
Plus I got caught out going down the side of a bus on my bike because, stupidly, when was waiting behind it I saw the ped light go green I thought there would be tons of time for me to cycle the length of a double decker before the traffic lights turned green.
Ha!
Why have I not learned by now?
Posted 12 years ago # -
Yeah I went over this yesterday, at low speed - traffic backed up and in the way...
But was certainly a surprise to discover!
Was damp, but I wasn't particularly worried - though if it's there for long and gets smoothed by car tyres and/or frozen...
Bike Chain photo -
Posted 12 years ago # -
Let's all get on Clarence / Fill that hole / fix my street and report this. Shameful.
Posted 12 years ago # -
"
Let's all get on Clarence / Fill that hole / fix my street and report this"
Optimist
I assume this is tram related.
Law unto themselves...
Posted 12 years ago # -
Well I've fixed-my-streeted it anyway. My experience of using it to report tram-induced stupidity is that at least it means they send someone out to look into it, which is better than nothing I suppose.
You generally get a response within a few weeks from someone saying what they did (normally that someone with a clipboard was sent out to nod at it and fill in a form to say "not our problem, guv, it's the Trams")
Posted 12 years ago # -
Walked past this yesterday afternoon and immediately shuddered at the thought of cycling over it, especially at speed and if not anticipated. Even noticed a few drivers taking it carefully. What is it covering?
Posted 12 years ago # -
I realised I was gazing at my navel, so have reported this as well.
Posted 12 years ago # -
we'll all have to run off to the Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden or northern Germany then
i've settled for travelling to Norway or Germany every couple of months instead.
but its still an uneasy compromise.
Welcome back to the best litlle small country in the ARGHHH
Posted 12 years ago # -
I can't see FB-sourced stuff at work, but from K's reporting, it sounds like it's a slab of steel that doesn't have a coating of anti-skid paint. I remember a few years ago riding over a cover like that and my bike twitching violently at 20mph.
Posted 12 years ago # -
The excavation under this 'bridge' is to replace an existing Scottish Water manhole which is apparently 100 years old and not up to standard for current/forthcoming requirements. The work is being done as part of the Tram project. 3-way temporary lights will be in place weekday nights and weekends until 9th December approximately, with the 'bridge' in place outwith these working times. I will relay comments & concerns about the surface. Jon
Posted 12 years ago # -
Thanks Jon.
We have had a note back from Clarence that it is being looked into as well.Posted 12 years ago # -
Yes thankyou.
I have seen these big steel plates before with a coating of roughened paint-stuff over them, which would be much more acceptable, also with a little soft, temporary tarmac ramp up onto them, as they're nearly an inch thick and that's quite an obstable if it's a 90-degree edge.
There used to be one near Stenhouse Crossway that was BOLTED to the ground in the greenway lane! so you had an inch of steel plate, with a further inch of bolt heads sitting proud of it. I've reported quite a few of these steel plates before where they've been left on the road covering a hole for months on end. They're not an appropriate surface, even for temporary use.
Posted 12 years ago # -
Dry today.
There is a bit of a raised pattern -
Posted 11 years ago # -
From Clarence;
Thank you for your contact regarding the works on Broughton Street and the associated temporary bridge structure over the excavation area.
Please find attached a notification regarding these works.
An anti-skid surfacing will be added to this structure this weekend once it is removed for work commencing as this cannot be applied whilst it is on a live traffic lane. Until this time, this surface will be salted during the colder weather.
I would like to thank you for bringing this matter to our attention and would like to assure you that safety to both the workers and the general public is our main priority.
Posted 11 years ago # -
So... they're going to add an anti-skid surface after they've removed it?
That would obviously be pointless so does this mean that they plan to reuse the structure later?
Posted 11 years ago # -
Was just about to post this as well - exact same cut n' paste message. At least something is being done (I genuinely think nothing was going to be done but for the complaints). I think that's actually a resonably satifactory result.
Posted 11 years ago # -
@cb, I was assuming it comes up for works being carried out, then at the end of every day when the works are finished it is replaced.
Posted 11 years ago # -
There are just pothole and a massive trench in that area now. Also, slightly further down Broughton Street there is a set of temporary traffic lights at the side of the road that look like they are about to be installed. Goodness knows what new chaos and pointless trenches are going to be dug now.
I am close to giving up cycling now since my only options are to spend 10 minutes walking through tramworks in St Andrew's Square, riding though the trench/pothole/death driver zone that is Broughton/Picardy Place or to take a massive detour.
I am really really really sick of it.
Posted 11 years ago # -
I'm hoping that's hyperbole. If it's not then the fact that a daily, confident, and experienced cyclist is thinking baout giving up really does speak volumes about what this city does (or more accurately doesn't do) for cyclists - and if current cyclists are giving up, then what hope is there for attracting new cyclists.
I'm spoiled for route choices to and from work, and any detour doesn't really add in much distance (and those that are longer tend to be better hill wise, so the time difference isn't there ar all). Which means that any problem on any particular route and it's easy to switch. If I want less traffic I take the Innocent or Regent Road; if I'm happy to mix with the traffic I'll take London Road or the Royal Mile. The only route I avoid as a matter of course is the south Holyrood Park road heading from east to west. Too many nutters overtaking on blind bends for that to ever be enjoyable (fine going in the opposite direction because the speed is so much higher heading downhill).
CEC take note. It's these stupid little discrepancies, like the MMW crossing fiasco as well, that show the true place of cyclists in this city. You are ballsing is up. Big time.
Posted 11 years ago # -
Not really. I am finding myself very happy to take any excuse not to cycle. Raining? I'll take the bus. Not raining? I'll run. I spent a few months walking through the tramworks but I just can't be bothered any more, it takes up so much time and the Death Zone is so stressful, especially with the new trenches, sunken drains, potholes and lumps of tarmac.
Posted 11 years ago # -
I cycle up Scotland streeeeeet << bumpy cobbles, and then up Dublin Street. Fortunately I only have to get to the Bus station to park my bike. Are there no other detours you could take Min? Sorry to hear its still a PITA!!
Posted 11 years ago # -
No because they would be so massive I may as well stick to walking St Andrew's Square which I am now sick of after so many many months. I am not going up Leith Walk or along Princes Street, they are both death traps.
Posted 11 years ago # -
Min, can you take the Queen's Drive-Abbeyhill-Easter Road route perhaps?
On the days I work in Leith, I'll go down Leith Walk, but I'll often come back via Bonnington Road, McDonald Road, Brunswick Road and cutting through to Abbeyhill. I cycled up Leith Walk the other day and it was a horrible experience with so many vehicles ducking and diving, while having to weave my way around all the massive craters.
Posted 11 years ago # -
Head east, then trundle relatively peacefully through sunny Restalrig or Craigentinny. Willowbrae Road is lovely in the morning at this time of year and currently only has two evil pinch-points.
Posted 11 years ago # -
I say yet again - I am not taking massive detours. Why should I?
Posted 11 years ago #
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