Cars facing ban on parking next to dropped kerbs & on pavements etc...
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/transport/msps-to-back-law-banning-parking-on-pavements.19657602
Wonder if anyone will actually enforce.
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Good news.
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Posted 11 years ago #
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yay!
My street, which hasn't tended to have double-parking issues, has been bad lately -(interestingly, of the sort described in previous threads - white van men doubleparking next to 'their' skip, and clearly thinking it is totally legit.)
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Standard Morningsider cut n' paste for this. It's laudable, it needs to happen, but enforcement is unlikely (and therefore political time spent on this comes across as mere posturing and being seen to be doing something).
"I totally agree with the Living Streets campaign to prevent pavement parking and parking in front of dropped kerbs. However, the Scottish Parliament doesn't really have the powers to ban this. Any legislation passed by the Scottish Parliament would require local authorities to promote traffic regulation orders banning parking, waiting etc. at each and every dropped kerb - which they cannot afford to do. I'm not quite sure how they could legally ban pavement parking in Scotland.
However, the UK Parliament could ban these with a very short Bill, simply making it an offence to park on the pavement or in front of a dropped kerb.
You only have to see the problems local authorities are having in implementing the Disabled Persons' Parking Places Act to see that any Scottish legislation on this issue is a non-starter."
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"almost all road traffic law is a matter for the UK Parliament and not the Scottish Parliament. Any law passed by the Scottish Parliament relating to parking or traffic enforcement can only require the police or local authorities to take an action they already have the legal power to do. This is why I mentioned the Disabled Persons Parking Places (Scotland) Act 2009. This worthy Act aims to ensure that non-blue badge holders can be ticketed for parking in a disabled persons' parking space. This Act requires local authorities to make every on-road disabled persons' parking place "enforceable" and to enter into negotiations with private landlords to allow the authority to take over responsibility for enforcing disabled persons' spaces in their car parks.
The trouble with this is that making spaces enforceable is a lengthy and time consuming process, which means the Act is proving to be something of a failure as locala uthorities just don't have the resources to make spaces enforceable. The best solution would have been for the UK Government to promote a Bill that would have made it an offence to park in in any legitimately marked disabled persons' parking place.
Any dropped kerb/pavement parking Bill passed by the Scottish Parliament will face the same problems. However, the vast number of dropped kerbs would make it impossible to implement in practice.
I'm not trying to be obtuse - as someone who has covered very many pavement miles with a buggy I detest pavement parking and people who block dropped kerbs. This is just the nature of the current constitutionl settlement in the UK. The best course of action is to try and convince the UK Government of the merits of UK wide legislation to ban pavement parking etc."
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There's an interesting response to pavement parking from Russia which uses an App linked to social media to name and shame 'Parking Douches' in the area. You enter the details of the car that's parked on the pavement and local businesses and residents get a pop-up advert which shows the vehicle details. You have to share the info on facebook to get rid of the ad, which I'm not too sure about(!) and most pop-ups can be fairly easily blocked, but still a fairly amusing idea.
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Meanwhile the Daily Mail reports on the disgusting and reprehensible actions of a police officer who wanted some precious parents to move their precious cars off the pavement while their precious children were doing a school play. Good for him I say and typical of the Daily Mail to get a rod up its backside about it.
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@WC, if the Scottish Parliament cannot stop pavement parking, perhaps it is time that we had some form of referendum on additional powers for it...
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@mgj, it would certainly be a novel reason to argue for full devolution...
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Of course the next Scottish government might come along and then not implement this. It would be a double edged sword I think.
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@Min, nice to see most of the comments on that article are supportive of the PC. The Daily Wail has a habit of spouting then finding it's not quite caught the mood... (helps in this case that it's a fee paying school which usually gets the frothers into unsympathetic mode).
Might be a bit OT to go into the whole 'independence' thing here... Desperately holding back....
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I haven't got the guts to look at the Mail article myself! Glad the mood has gone against them, nyer to them!
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It's remarkable, every single one of the top-rated commetns is supporting the cop - and most of them also having a go at the DM.
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Sandar White MSP and a representative of guide dog charity were just on Radio Scotland news....
Put the case forward very well, with safety, inconvenience and damage to kerbs all mentioned.... despite this there were still comments about where will all the cars go?!
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Crazy thing re that Daily Mail story is that it is all based on 'one uncle' and then says 'many parents' etc etc.
Oh well, off to our school's nativity play. hope the parking wardens are about :)
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Tweet them to ask them to pay a visit? Do the 'Parking Wardens' have a twitter account?
I suppose as is expected NSL who supply the Parking Wardens do not have a twitter account. I suppose it would be deluged with abuse.
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Almost daily I have parents parking right over my driveway on the school run and few apologise when asked to move. I remind them it's a breach of the HC as if they care. The worst thing is that there are usually spaces away from anyone's drive access, often closer to the school. Other drivers behave the same at other times too. How would they feel if the fire service couldn't get their hoses to their house on time because a vehicle blocked their way? Or if their child was killed trying to cycle onto the road,hidden by an illegally parked vehicle?
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Almost daily I have parents parking right over my driveway on the school run and few apologise when asked to move. I remind them it's a breach of the HC as if they care. The worst thing is that there are usually spaces away from anyone's drive access, often closer to the school. Other drivers behave the same at other times too. How would they feel if the fire service couldn't get their hoses to their house on time because a vehicle blocked their way? Or if their child was killed trying to cycle onto the road,hidden by an illegally parked vehicle?
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Other drivers behave the same at other times too. How would they feel if the [...]
Curiously, it all seems to be regarded as "fate".
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