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20/02/2013 12:15
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Wanted: Advice on where to fix the road
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Posted 11 years ago #
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Edited to remove question which is answered in link in OP.
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Right, the obvious answer is the bit of Long Dalmahoy Road between the railway bridge and the junction with the unamed road running down to the A71, which is so full of potholes as to be one of the main reasons that I don't use NCR 75. Unfortunately fixing that would probably cost more cash than they've got.
How is one supposed to contact them? That doesn't seem obvious from the link.
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I would suggest having a look at the section between Cocklaw Farm Steading and the T-junction with Warriston Farm Road. The junction itself has been crumbly and rough for a long time.
I know it's out of scope for the SW Team, but for what it's worth, eastbound on NCN route 75 from the junction of Gilmore Place/Lower Gilmore Place to the junction with Leven Street. Loads of sunken previous repairs and patches that can only be avoided by riding in the middle of the carriageway.
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Suspect -
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South West Neighbourhood Team
10 Westside Plaza, Edinburgh EH14 2ST
Tel: 0131 527 3800
Email: southwestteam@edinburgh.gov.uk
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or tweet - @southwest_team
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Hi all. I work for the SW N'hood Team.
Just to say to fimm; if you don't ask you don't get. All suggestions requests will be sent to our Roads Team. They might not be able to complete all repairs this time but if we have more that need doing we can bid in for money to carry them out. We might not get it but we can always ask.
Arellcat; you're right that unfortunately Gilmore Place is just outside of our area. Any requests for this area should go to South Team. Once again if you ask them they will have an inspector out to look at it and see what they can do.
Hope that helps?
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I should go that way at the weekend and have a proper look. I'm bound to forget, though
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"I know it's out of scope for the SW Team, but for what it's worth, eastbound on NCN route 75 from the junction of Gilmore Place/Lower Gilmore Place to the junction with Leven Street. Loads of sunken previous repairs and patches that can only be avoided by riding in the middle of the carriageway."
Agreed. Not to mention a certain 'missing' dropped kerb at Harrison Road, or the obstructions on the lift bridge.
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Ooh, hello to TheBuddster, I didn't notice your post earlier.
If I do remember to go and have a look at said road, would a response containing Ordanance Survey grid references be comprehensible to someone? It would be the easiest way for me to describe where things are, but I accept that not everyone knows about them...Posted 11 years ago # -
Hi fimm.
Hmm, possibly although if you have a smart phone you could just take a photo with some recognisable street furniture/trees in it and describe the approx location. I think our Roads Team can use OS references with their software but I've never approached them with any before.
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Impressive use of this new fangled interweb thingy to elicit some real world work...
Out of interest, are other areas collating similar lists of pot holes / poor surfaces? My reports to Clarence aren't getting any traction in West area. Would be good to feel that a real person was looking at the state of Gogar Station Road - which is dreadful.
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So now cycling money is being used to fix ordinary roads!!
Q. When is a cycling budget not a cycling budget?
A. When it is used to fix roads... Ha ha ha ha aaaaa aaa grrrrh! DOH!Posted 11 years ago # -
I'm tempted to suggest that they give a member of the team a bicycle and a camera and tell them to go and look for themselves, it isn't that big an area... however it is good that they are asking cyclists rather than just going and fixing what appear to them to be the worst problems.
As I say, I don't usually go that way, preferring to stick to the A70, but if I remember at the weekend I'll take a look (and some photos).
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Hankchief: I'm not directly involved with West so I can say for sure in terms of cycling. However, the n'hood roads teams do record everything that comes through. The only thing is that it's all about priorities when work gets carried out and you can find that although the team are aware of an issue it just isn't as high a priority as other issues. I recommend that you email westteam@edinburgh.gov.uk directly. Your request will be logged and you will get a response either way.
Fimm: We have had a couple of the professional officers out inspecting the area, however, I want to make sure that those who use the road have an input into the process. There's also the possibility that as cyclists you might identify an area/section as being a higher priority than another. In which case this can be fed to the team.
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Looking at the map, the bit towards Kirknewton that fimm indicated, goes over The railway that has been bad for years, you should get the quarry to contribute to it TheBuddster as their lorries churn it up. The worst bit that should get top priority is ravelrig road. This is a steep descent with blind corners not helped by the shocking state of the road. I went down it last Sunday and at the bottom realised I had forgotten to put my helmet on, just a buff for protection.
If seriously going in to the back road through Heriot watt that would be great as it is also churned up by the uni building student flats. The uni likes the road to be churned tho as it decreases rat running?
The bit from the end of the WoL path to the A70 is fine except the gas board dig it up every two minutes. The section from the traffic lights to ravelrig road is bad but nowhere near as serious as fimm's railway bridge, my ravelrig hill or Heriot watt.
When is work likely to start?
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Ah, gembo, I'm glad you spotted this, I knew you'd said you'd been that way recently.
My apologies for the slightly sarcastic comments, TheBuddster.
I'm afraid that when I went out this morning the minor roads were covered in slush so I didn't go that way (and I came back a completely different route). If it is light enough in an evening soon I might divert my long commute home and have a look.
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Hi,
Thanks for all the feedback so far. I'm on leave today & tomorrow but wanted to give you a quick update.
Spoken to the team about the bit over the railway and it is going to get completely redone as a seperate project. I don't have a timescale for this yet as its being carried out by the central teams but it will be next financial year, ie before April 2014. I'll try and get a better approx start date when I'm back in.
Gembo: the works that we are carrying out should start on the 4th of March, depending on the weather. I'll pass the areas you've highlighted to the team on Wed when I'm back.
Fimm: I actually like the idea of getting them out on bikes but that'll be a project you might have to give me a little more time on that one. ;-)
Keep the feedback coming in and I'll try to get you an update on the points raised so far Wed, if not Thurs.
Thanks!
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"the bit over the railway ... is going to get completely redone as a seperate project"
I'm not surprised, it isn't really an area where patching would be much use. I'm sorry I didn't get there yesterday, it is usually Thursday or Friday when I do my long commute.(Explanation: most of the time I commute to Livingston using a folding bike that I take on the train. However roughly once a week I do the whole 16 miles each way by road bike. My usual route doesn't take me along the Long Dalmahoy Road but I could divert that way to be helpful...)
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Thanks The Buddster, looking forward to safer downhills on ravelrig road
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Well, you are in luck TheBuddster, I went that way this morning. Some of the photos are not great because I was in a hurry, but I hope they'll help.
Near the top of Ravelrig Road.
Looking the other way from the same spot.
That poured tarmac repair is not really adequate for cyclists as the road remains unpleasantly bumpy and the edges (not so bad on this example) can be hazardous especially if you have skinny tyres.Posted 11 years ago # -
(Sorry, there will be more, but I need to do my job!)
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Very blurry shot of Ravelrig Road looking down
and looking up from the same spot.
Crude patching of those holes isn't really worth the effort, in my opinion; if you really want to make cyclists happy we like smoooooooooooooth tarmac! (Don't all road users?) The unpleasantness is in the bumpy, rattly ride you get.
However those long holes in the middle of the road are particularly dangerous.Posted 11 years ago # -
This was one particularly bad bit on Long Dalmahoy Road itself:
and another, just getting to the junction:
I didn't take any of the railway bridge area as you obviously know about that.
Hope that helps!
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Don't really have anything to add, you've pretty well covered it. That road is real pain to ride on, you end up on the wrong side of the road hoping nothing fast is coming over the blind summit.
Posted 11 years ago # -
Thanks to everyone so far who has submitted comments/issues in this area. I've taken your feedback and emailed it to the lead roads officer on this project. Hes on leave today but I'll catch-up with him tomorrow and see if I can get you an update or comments back.
Special thanks to fimm for taking the time to go out and take photos of the area. I'll make sure the lead officer gets a copy of them.
Work is due to start on the 4th of March so you still have a couple of days go give more comments if there is anything else in this area you'd like to raise?
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No problem.
As I said, in my opinion fewer mends done well are much better than more mends done badly (i.e. leaving an uneven surface), as with some of the tarmac patches I photographed.
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*UPDATE*
Have spoken to the lead officer about the points raised. He's informed me that a team will start working their way up Ravelrig Road on Monday. They will be working towards Long Dalmahoy Road.
Once they've done Ravelrig Rd they'll start working down Long Dalmahoy Rd starting from the top of Ravelrig heading towards the railway bridge.After a couple of weeks another team will join the first team doubling the resources carrying out the work.
After this has been done the stretch from the top of Ravelrig Rd towards Heriot Watt is next.
Just so you know depending on how much work it takes to repair Ravelrig and the first section of Long Dalmahoy the team may[i] have to apply for additional money to complete it. However, this won't be clear until a good amount of the work has been carried out.
Thanks for all your feedback on this. I hope you are finding this beneficial. I know that we are. I'm also keen to getting your feedback on the completed repairs.
Does anyone have any questions on any of this?
Posted 11 years ago # -
What sort of repairing are they doing? I mean, patching, or putting bumpy tarmac down, or making a really thorough repair?
Posted 11 years ago # -
"I hope you are finding this beneficial. I know that we are"
Good!
I think 'direct' contact with local teams is beneficial.
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