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Impending Contraflow / Pavement closure - Dundee Street

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  1. kaputnik
    Moderator

    This morning some workmen were setting up a contraflow westbound where Dundee Street meets end of the WAR and Henderson Terrace and turns into Angle Park Terrace.

    The genius of the layout was they closed the left(straight ahead) lane and left the right (right turn on filter only) lane open. So the solitary car wanting to turn right down Henderson Terrace stopped every other vehicle and the tailback was already as far back as Yeaman Place.

    I also saw large "footway closed" signs being taken out of the workmen's lorry, so I assume that the pavement on south side of road being dug up too.

    Be wary of the queues here, as there's precious little room at the best of time, It looks like filtering up Dundee street after Victor Paris will be very difficult.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  2. steveo
    Member

    Yeah I spotted that this morning, time to start diverting up Viewforth and back down Ashley Terrace if I'm too early to use the canal.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  3. EdinTravel
    Member

    Looks like Scottish Power work, listed as street lighting repairs. Will pass comments on to the South West roads team.

    Jon

    http://www.roadworksscotland.org/ExtendedDetails.aspx?key=014907360000

    Posted 12 years ago #
  4. chdot
    Admin


    Helpful??

    Posted 12 years ago #
  5. chdot
    Admin

    Apparently it's only going to last two days and there have been 'discussions' within the council.

    I cycled there when there wasn't too much traffic, but I definitely felt that that sign had sanctioned those who overtook me with much less room than those famous outstretched children's arms...

    Posted 12 years ago #
  6. gembo
    Member

    It was bad tonight, but I snaked in and out of the cones. There was a bus trying to go straight ahead that was stuck twixt cones and those turning right which held everything up. Made it to lights at next junction without a car coming near me

    Posted 12 years ago #
  7. kaputnik
    Moderator

    How is it "closed"? Does that mean you have to ride 1.5m out from the kerb in the middle of the road because the red tarmac is out of bounds?

    Idiots.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  8. gembo
    Member

    Down to one lane basically, the cars can't get in because of the cones, but we can just about, best tho to reroute until finished fixing the streetlights or whatever

    Posted 12 years ago #
  9. fimm
    Member

    Surely it is a warning to car drivers that there will be cyclists in the carriageway?

    Posted 12 years ago #
  10. chdot
    Admin


    Waiting to turn right


    Turning right

    Posted 12 years ago #
  11. chdot
    Admin

    "Surely it is a warning to car drivers that there will be cyclists in the carriageway?"

    That might be the intention, but don't think many people will get that message.

    Really needs something like

    and

    With black car replaced by a bike of course!

    Posted 12 years ago #
  12. kaputnik
    Moderator

    I went down Ashley Terrace this morning to "avoid" this, then remembered why I stopped going down Ashley Terrace as squeezed between lanes of queing cars and the railings and then getting near the lights where there's no ASL for cyclists, it's really no different to what they've managed to achieve on Dundee Street.

    Think I'll just take the underpass tomorrow.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  13. steveo
    Member

    Does that mean you have to ride 1.5m out from the kerb in the middle of the road because the red tarmac is out of bounds?

    Thats what I did this morning, aggressive primary once I got passed the junction. I let a couple of cars passed me at the lights where there was space and cut across the road before the opening to the approach road to let any one going down there passed me.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  14. chdot
    Admin

    "
    South West Team (@southwest_team)
    26/02/2013 09:49
    @AndrewDBurns @CyclingEdin @LAHinds spoke to our roads team about this, one of the guys is going to have a look at it today ^S

    "

    Posted 12 years ago #
  15. That 'Cycle Lane Closed' sign really sums up what's wrong with cycle provision in this city!

    Smacks of "Now you cyclists, this means that cars can come into the lane, so don't you hold them up now" as if it was some sort of mandatory lane and not something that people drive in all of the time anyway, as well as completely missing the point. The lane isn't 'closed', it's very much open. Sigh. Hate to harp back to it, but in Copenhagen we saw various bits of roadworks and they purposely coned off cyclepaths around the obstruction (as in, maintained a segregated lane at all times, including little tarred ramps up and down from the kerbed lane that was closed).

    Posted 12 years ago #
  16. gembo
    Member

    Mr WC, as you will recall the junction at Diggers is two lanes, one for a right turn with the traffic light making it safe to turn right and one for going straight ahead with a green filter arrow. The whole straight ahead lane is closed, with a little bit of an opening at the lights. It isn't just the cycle lane that is closed, the car lane is too.

    What they are doing I have no idea I went Canal,, craiglockhart, colinton route on way home tonight. It is fine going in to town.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  17. chdot
    Admin

    "

    South West Team (@southwest_team)
    26/02/2013 16:33
    @CyclingEdin *update* from our roads team re this work - W/bound narrowed to one lane off-peak only; two lanes retained at junction. 1/2

    2/2 Traffic Management approved and needed for road safety. peak-time Traffic Management kept to safe minimum. ^S

    "

    Posted 12 years ago #

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