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"Let's keep Cockenzie, Scotland's modernist cathedral of power"

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  1. PS
    Member

    Thought this might be of interest to a number of CCE-ers:
    Lang may yer lums reek

    Posted 12 years ago #
  2. PS
    Member

  3. kaputnik
    Moderator

    We've already knocked down it's near twin (Kincardine) and contemporaneous sites at Barony in Ayrshire and last year in Methil. Inverkip is being dismantled just now (whose chimneys were the tallest free-standings structures in Scotland.)

    This leaves Cockenzie as perhaps the last change to preserve something of this era. It's far more handsome than Longannet, which suffers from four chimneys combined into a single stack which, despite being taller than those of Cockenzie, appears to be proportionately short and dumpy.

    Emasculating it would be dreadful - imagine knocking down the stack of Bankside (Tate Modern now) or Battersea power stations in London. You might as well complete the job and flatten thr whole thing if that's your approach.

    We're much too quick to flatten our modernist and industrial architecture, like the original Shrubhill powerhouse and like what National Grid want to do at the Granton gasholder. And it's usually to enable them to create a quick buck and throw up some nasty housing development.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  4. chdot
    Admin


    Cockenzie Power Station from bird hide!

    Yes I like it from a distance too.

    Not sure that Scotland likes its industrial history much.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  5. PS
    Member

    Totally agree, K. These massive industrial buildings are fantastic structures. I'm a big fan of Torness as well. In the pages on the second link, there's a link to footage of Portobello power station, which looks like a belter of a brick behemoth as well.

    I'm not clear on why you would need to change the chimneys to convert it to gas. Anyone know?

    Posted 12 years ago #
  6. chdot
    Admin

    Pix

    http://www.3harbours.co.uk

    Posted 12 years ago #
  7. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Anyone know?

    Boilers on a power station are forced draught, so it can't be for that. I have vague recollections from first year urban geography course at uni that it's to do with what you are ejecting from the stack. There's sulphur and nitrogen oxides from coal, and not from gas, so perhaps because you're only ejecting CO2 and water from natural gas, you don't need the tall stack.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  8. PS
    Member

    So you might knock the big chimneys down because they'll cost more to maintain in the long run than it will cost to replace them with crappy wee things now?

    Posted 12 years ago #
  9. kaputnik
    Moderator

    @PS It looks, unsurprisingly, more complicated than just that - the combustion gases from natural gas will be of a different density and temperature than that of coal, so will require a different height and guage of stack.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  10. PS
    Member

    Boo! Why not just keep the big chimneys and hide the small ones on a different bit of the building, thereby avoiding demolition costs?

    Posted 12 years ago #
  11. wee folding bike
    Member

    kaputnik,

    Battersea power station has been a wreck for about 25 years.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  12. kaputnik
    Moderator

    @wfb yes, but a wreck with chimbleys!

    Posted 12 years ago #
  13. wee folding bike
    Member

    Don't know if Inverkip still has a chimney. The station was being demolished when we were down there in October. I'll be on Cumbrae in June so I'll check it then.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverkip_power_station

    Posted 12 years ago #
  14. chdot
    Admin

  15. kaputnik
    Moderator

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-23254894

    The view from the top of Inverkip stack.

    TO be brought down on 28th July. Will be quite a sight!

    Posted 11 years ago #
  16. Arellcat
    Moderator

    Stack is scheduled for demolition tonight at 22.00.

    The last train to Inverkip is the 1950 from GLC. That doesn't really matter because the last train back is the 2054.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  17. wee folding bike
    Member

    Paper says there will be a wide exclusion zone round Inverkip. Should have gone to Cumbrae earlier in the week.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  18. chdot
    Admin

  19. kaputnik
    Moderator

    http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/scotland-blog/2014/apr/30/scotland-firthofforth-coal#start-of-comments

    Scotland's secret tunnel under the Forth, 50 years old and forgotten
    While two of Scotland's best known landmarks, the two bridges over the Forth, will be celebrated this year there is a third crossing which is a distant memory: a tunnel in the rock cut by the coal mining industry

    Posted 11 years ago #
  20. chdot
    Admin

  21. chdot
    Admin

    "

    It’s been suggested the ambitious proposals could see the disused power station transformed into a “Tate Modern for Scotland”, complete with performance space, shops and even a swimming pool.

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/community-bid-to-buy-cockenzie-passes-first-hurdle-1-3854010

    Posted 9 years ago #
  22. kaputnik
    Moderator

    a “Tate Modern for Scotland”, complete with performance space, shops and even a swimming pool

    So not really the Tate Modern at all then.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  23. amir
    Member

    I thought it was going to be a gas powered station. Obviously wrong!

    Posted 9 years ago #
  24. Cyclingmollie
    Member

    There's only a frame and some side panels now.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  25. recombodna
    Member

    chimneys come down on sept 26th

    Posted 9 years ago #
  26. chdot
    Admin


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