Thanks Arellcat, I am now familiarised with the high-frequency puttering of a Maybach engine.
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"Forth/Fife Circle Steam Specials" (etc)
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Some Flying Scotsman timings are now available.
Saturday 14th of May
York to Edinburgh (arrives 2103)
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U50504/2016/05/14/advanced
Edinburgh to Bo'ness sidings
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U50506/2016/05/14/advancedTuesday 17th of May
Bo'ness to Edinburgh (arrives 0808)
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U50510/2016/05/17/advanced
Edinburgh to York (leaves 0817)
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U50511/2016/05/17/advancedPosted 8 years ago # -
Och they boy will be in bed on Saturday so he will miss it. Might go for Fishwives' Causeway myself to stand on the bridge over Craigentinny sidings. There's no point attempting a night photo with my camera.
Might be able to get him along on Tuesday morning before work.
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Hmmm - round the sub on Tuesday morning. Might take an early wander down - purely so mini-Morningsider can see it of course.
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"round the sub on Tuesday morning"
Suspect this "Diesel locomotive, trailing load 715 tonnes" means steam loco at back not doing much.
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All the journeys are marked as "diesel locomotive, trailing...". I don't think RTT can handle "steam". But yes if it's going to go round the sub and approach Waverley from the west then it's going to have to have Flying Scotsman at the rear for that bit, so it's at the front to lead the onwards journey to York.
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The Flying Scotsman also going down to Tweedbank and over the Forth Bridge to Nth Queensferry and back on Sunday although they're trying to keep the times hush hush to deter spectators. However, careful reading of RTT for alterations to normal services seems to suggest it's due in Tweedbank about noon.
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Cyclops, yes, 2T69, 2T70 and 2T78 in particular are showing as variations.
If you look at the 1112 2T70 EDB-TWB service, there is a 13 minute stop programmed in at Stow.
The 1511 2T78 EDB-TWB service shows a 10 minute stop at Stow. There is double track between Stow and Bowland.
And since Tweedbank has capacity for two trains, could it be that Flying Scotsman will sit there for about three hours before being diesel hauled back to Edinburgh?
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If you notice the Tuesday empty coaches make a trip into Millerhill, so it's likely the steam engine will only be dragged on the stretch Millerhill-Edinburgh and will be at the front through Morningside.
If it does indeed make a stop in Drem loop that will be one of the better photo opportunities you don't need a car to get to. Only about 5-600m from the station to here and the fence is right up at the line.
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This playing-at-detectives is tremendous fun. :-)
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If you notice the Tuesday empty coaches make a trip into Millerhill, so it's likely the steam engine will only be dragged on the stretch Millerhill-Edinburgh and will be at the front through Morningside.
That figures, I had overlooked the trip into Millerhill and assumed it was just taking the long way around to keep out the Haymarket - Waverley section.
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So does that mean if I was to leave for work at silly o'clock on Tuesday morning, and positioned myself somewhere on the path by the trams between Balgreen and Sighthill, it'd be the steam loco doing the pulling as it headed from Bo'ness towards Gorgie?
What would be fab is if the detectives with the train knowledge sleuthing ability were able to piece together a rough itinerary on the Sunday... (I actually know someone quite high up in the Craigentinny depot through involvement with the Figgate Friends and sorely tempted to see if I can get a grandstand view....)
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Klaxon, that wee gap in the Armco on the Drem road will be the plum spot, I think. Good for close-ups, though probably too close unless you have a fisheye lens!
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Excellent sleuthing indeed. I could drag weezettes out early on Tues and position on Blackford Ave or Newington (might check for spotter spots in between the two over weekend). But timing crucial as, y'know, limited attention spans of young people today. Not that I'm using them as a cover of course...
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Think on Tuesday morning we will get it at our usual spot at the Meadowbank stadium car park, always good to catch a steam locomotive coming out of a section of tunnel, as you get the anticipation of hearing the approach and then a blast of smoke and steam as it emerges.
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expected to arrive at Waverley late in the evening, with exact timings being held back over safety fears. On previous outings, crowds have rushed on to the railway tracks to get a better view.
From there, the Flying Scotsman will make a return journey to Tweedbank on Sunday morning on the Borders Railway and then over the Forth Bridge on the Fife circular that evening. A host of festivities, including musicians and market stalls, have been arranged to celebrate its arrival.
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with exact timings being held back over safety fears.
Not really, given they are publicly available on RTT.
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Not the Sunday ones though? Or if they are is there a link???
I do like the thought of something doing a tour so that people can see it then not telling anyone when it's going to be anywhere.
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I haven't found any Sunday activity for WR (West Coast Railway Company) on RTT. The boffins on Scot-Rail don't seem to have any more info than we do. But we can infer some of it from the variations to the standard timetable.
On the York to Edinburgh run tomorrow there are long stops at Heaton North Jn and at Berwick. It's almost certainly taking on water at those times.
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@wc glad it's not just me who couldn't find results. Thought it was a problem between my keyboard and my chair...
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"But we can infer some of it from the variations to the standard timetable."
I have not the statistically-aligned brain to carry out such analysis :)
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THE FIFE EVENING CIRCULAR - t0515b
Edinburgh-Kirkcaldy (WCRC) [wcrc]
60103: Edinburgh-Kirkcaldy-Alloa-Stirling-Edinburgh
[Fully booked]
[Times withheld due to trespass risk]"
http://www.uksteam.info/tours/trs16.htm
Wonder if this is going to become the 'new norm' - or just 'Flying Scotsman is different'?
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I wonder what time the ticket holders think their trip will be departing. Presumable there is a time they need to be at the station and a time they are expecting to be back there.
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@acsimpson
They have probably been emailed the times and told they will be subjected to the Spanish Inquisition if they divulge the contents...
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So there are comfy chairs on board?
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and cushions
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THE Flying Scotsman locomotive’s trips in Scotland on Sunday were tonight cancelled after it emerged Network Rail had failed to check whether the world’s most famous engine would fit the routes.Sold-out trips on the Borders Railway to Tweedbank and across the Forth Bridge to Fife will now be hauled by vintage diesel locomotives instead.
This is because checks were not made in time to ensure 93-year-old Flying Scotsman would fit under bridges and beside platforms and other structures along the Borders route.
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Bureaucracy gone mad as they say.
The chance of FS being bigger than the A4 that took the Queen to Tweedbank is less than 0.
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The chance of FS being bigger than the A4 that took the Queen to Tweedbank is less than 0.
The chance of FS being bigger than Tornado, which is – to all intents and purposes – the same kind of engine, is surely also zero.
Bureaucracy indeed, and a big yah boo sucks to NR. However:
Mr Robertson said West Coast Railways, which will run the trips, had been told only this afternoon that checks had not been made.
Was WCRC simply assuming that those checks had been done? If I were Marcus Robertson I'd've been chasing for confirmation well in advance.
The diesels might be worth a watch, though, depending on which ones they call in. If it's just DRS Class 37s, I probably wouldn't bother.
But we're still on for Flying Scotsman coming up to Edinburgh, so Fishwives Causeway, Drem, Waverley and the South Sub are still all to play for.
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