One of the 'easy' targets in ATAP is to remove guard railings. I don't know of any that have been removed. Anyone want to start a list of ones they'd like to see?
I've just been discussing the ones at Viewforth/Montpelier with the 'south team'.
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Guard railings
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Posted 12 years ago #
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Think SRD means here -
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It can be done.
(I'm assuming this is before and after!)
The wonders of Google StreetView
Of course could do with double yellows.
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Similar at Craiglockhart road North
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Various points on the "H2EP" route. Particularly at west end of Corstorphine path (Traquair Park and Paddockholm) and also on cut-through betwixt Ladywell Avenue and Broomhall Road.
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The removal of guard rails was one of the minor improvements brought to us by the QBC - specifically at the
Summerhall/Melville Terrace/Sciennes junction.Posted 12 years ago # -
just had interesting chat about this in relation to specific case i had raised.
Railings are not all being removed. only if their removal can be justified in terms of safety. rather contra to our assumption that railings are dangerous (and unsightly).
So, the impression I got is that a case has to be made for the removal, rather than a case for their retention. which puts rather a different light on it.
I had hoped that we could start with plan to remove railings and then discuss how to make this space more usable
Which is pretty clearly a non-starter.
However, have been offered a chance to meet and inspect and consider how the corners might be made more less sharp/more cyclable.
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@srd the car parked across the salmon run when streetview is pointed in the opposite direction is a good exemplar of why the current "design" just doesn't work.
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no to mention the car parked on zigzags in the other view.
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@SRD one assumes that the guard railings cannot be removed because a child might step off the kerb into the path of a speeding motorist? Howabout bringing two threads togather and erecting a nice line of bollards across the middle of the road, then?
(Not very helpful in the real world, sorry.)
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I presume the railings near schools will stay then, which means those lethal ones at Broughton Road/East Claremont Street won't be removed.
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The broughton road junction is bad,not sure the railings help pedestrians or children much? Presumably the point of them is to control where pedestrians access the road? Now this often seems random and indeed randomly up a bit from pedestrian crossings and often look at you and go for it anyway. Mostly, I watch out for them but I worry one day I will hit one by accident. I would not want this to be a child. Would these railings deter an errant sprog? Whoever put them up in the first place must have thought so.
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The Broughton Road railings were put up after a long campaign by parents at the local school. I didn't like the look of them but I understand why parents might think they're a good idea; however, I suspect it was more a perceived danger than actual. But within a few months a cyclist was crushed against then and killed.
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I don't know that Broughton Road junction, so I went and had a look on Streetview. It is a very wide bit of pavement that the railings are on... and there are a couple of Hearts scarves tied onto the railings, which leads me to assume that the cyclist that PS mentions was a Hearts fan.
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@fimm The pavement was widened at the same time as they put the railings in, IIRC. The pavement widening prevented vehicles heading west taking the junction into East Claremont Street (in effect, going straight on while Broughton Road turns to the right) at speed. That should have been enough to slow vehicles down, perhaps with a bollard to prevent cutting of the corner, but they put the railings in too.
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