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"Royal Botanic Garden ‘too middle class' "

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  • Started 12 years ago by chdot
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  1. chdot
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  2. SRD
    Moderator

    some good points there, but what a jumbled mish-mash of an article/

    Posted 12 years ago #
  3. Morningsider
    Member

    Hmmm, they may have a point. Last week I overheard an Oak and Monkey Puzzle tree chatting about house prices and which nursery to send their saplings to.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  4. Charterhall
    Member

    Going down market ? I hope not.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  5. SRD
    Moderator

    down market garden more like...

    I'm sure they didn't mean it that way, but the botanics official sounded appallingly snooty. 'the working classes love grubbing in the dirt' 'we'll attract them in by talking about nice simple vegetables, not exotics'.

    What rubbish. Kids love the glasshouses and seeing something different, but you have to pay for them. best way to attract local people is to invite them in!

    (it would also help if they didn't pounce on toddlers with balls in the name of 'no ball games here')

    Posted 12 years ago #
  6. crowriver
    Member

    In other news, "Meadows too varsity"; "Leith Links too radge"; "Princes Street Gardens full of tourists"; and "Holyrood Park: great place for a drive".

    Posted 12 years ago #
  7. Morningsider
    Member

    Nothing to do with going downmarket and everything to do with trying to convince the Scottish Government to maintain their annual grant, particularly now the National Museum does so much for kids.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  8. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Yes, I suggest we let the grass grow unkempt and dump some tyres in the pond and an old bathtub somewhere too. Some more graffiti might make the place a bit more homely for the Chipwrapper.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  9. chdot
    Admin

    At draft/unconfirmed stage is -

    'Creating pedestrian/cycle-friendly environment on Arboretum Place between Inverleith Park and the Botanics entrances'

    This will be Phase 3 of route from Craigleith (NEPN) - due to be done by March next year.

    Let's hope that CEC and the Botanics are working on ways to attract people to cycle from 'less middle class areas'...

    Posted 12 years ago #
  10. EddieD
    Member

    Dear lord, I nearly choked on my polenta when I read that...

    Posted 12 years ago #
  11. Blueth
    Member

    I suppose they could try a pricing strategy that meant you didn't need a second mortgage to patronise the cafes.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  12. crowriver
    Member

    My family are amongst the riff-raff who use the café tables outside to eat our own food brought from home. No doubt we lower the tone terribly.

    I don't suppose anyone has thought about the fact that the Botanics lie in Inverleith; both it and neighbouring Stockbridge are also overwhelmingly white and, er, middle class? Coinkidinky?

    Posted 12 years ago #
  13. Blueth
    Member

    Also, whilst I wouldn't really want to see a cycle path through there, I really don't see why they can't allow you to push a bike in there so that you can enjoy the place as part of a through journey, as you would if walking, as opposed to having to enter and exit by the same gate having left the bike outside.

    I'm sure, Crowriver, that the parkies would have huckled you out once upon a time for daring to do that.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  14. AKen
    Member

    Also, whilst I wouldn't really want to see a cycle path through there, I really don't see why they can't allow you to push a bike in there so that you can enjoy the place as part of a through journey,

    Probably because they're worried that as soon as their back was turned you'd be back in the saddle and doing extreme downhill through the alpine collection at the rock garden.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  15. PS
    Member

    “Of course, if you have a group of children who are having fun and running wild then that’s fantastic, but it also has implications for some of the plants.

    And yet the one time I tried to jog through the Botanics I was turned away. Double standards!

    Posted 12 years ago #
  16. gembo
    Member

    When we lived in town we were always in the botanical, loved watching the changes in the big hedge. I grew up working class but I am now undeniably middle class. I was back for a science festival thing a couple of years back and met a family who were clients of mine from wester hailes out for the day. Slightly jaw dropping moment for me, but recovered my senses and had a good chat. Same thing happened at free event at Edinburgh castle with two boys I used to work with and their granny.

    These are the exceptions that prove the research should be worthwhile and also very cheap at £8000.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  17. kaputnik
    Moderator

    I suppose they could try a pricing strategy that meant you didn't need a second mortgage to patronise the cafes.

    Flask.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  18. Uberuce
    Member

    'Falafel Disaster' - a phrase that only gembo's undeniable class transition could bring me.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  19. chdot
    Admin

  20. crowriver
    Member

    Jenny’s Beltane-supported project will explore how the Royal Botanic Gardens Edinburgh can be made more accessible to nearby communities such as Pilton or Leith.

    Better safer cycle routes to the Botanics? It's nearly there with the NEPN network. On the Leith side, just the junction with Broughton Rd*, McDonald Rd*, Leith Walk, and surrounding feeder streets to sort out.

    *- yes I know both these have facilities for cyclists, but let's face it they could be better.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  21. Nelly
    Member

    We got married at the botanics, our crowd got well and truly wellied on champagne and nibbled canapes on a hot august day.

    I was glad of the machine gun toting security though - kept the proles at bay.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  22. Charterhall
    Member

    Visiting places like the Botanics is one of the defining indicators of being middle class. So if they succeed in attracting regular visits from some of the working class, won't those individuals now have to be redefined as middle class ? Hence status quo maintained.

    Posted 12 years ago #

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