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WoL Path Resurfacing

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  • Started 6 months ago by ejstubbs
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  1. redmist
    Member

    They're now resurfacing the section just west of Woodhall Millbrae. You can currently get round the bit they've closed as its the bit where the path splits in two but once they move to the next bit I suspect it'll require a diversion up to the road.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  2. steveo
    Member

    I went up on Tuesday, got diverted into spylaw Park in typical Edinburgh fashion though the sign directed you onto the park and left you to own deductions as to how to proceed.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  3. gembo
    Member

    Came up tonight, nice gravel ride but not Ultitrec, big chuckies

    The whin dust bedding in a bit because so dry.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  4. fimm
    Member

    We rode our mountain bikes up as far as West Mill Road on Saturday. The new fine surface extends as far as Spylaw Park and then the last bit to the road is gravel, which is a bit odd.

    Mr fimm cycled all the way up the WoL to Balerno on his mountain bike on Sunday and reports that there is some kind of gravel all the way up (I assume in bits that were just mud before). He said he would not take a road bike along it (which is fine, you don't want the Mr fimms of this world taking their road bikes along there...)

    It will be interesting to see what the rain does to it all.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  5. gembo
    Member

    Came up it tonight in the rain.

    The best but is the proper Ultitrec section.

    Before that there is a lot of sand

    Washed down the poet’s Glen

    Before that a mixture of sand and gravel and chuckies.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  6. chdot
    Admin

    Hope you were on your electric mountain bike…

    Posted 5 months ago #
  7. gembo
    Member

    No just normal commuter but has the excellent schwalbe land cruiser tyres.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  8. chdot
    Admin

    Went back to look at a C&C document & the Dells are down for repair. My colleague @edjthornley did a motion 2 Cttee asking for update 4 priority 1&2 so we shd have something back by the end of the yr

    https://mobile.twitter.com/halosler/status/1565314959889911810

    Posted 4 months ago #
  9. gembo
    Member

    Today might be the last day to cycle on the cinder track the6 have made It is very good and includes some made drainage wells with wee walls just east of Juni Green. It is quite enjoyable on a wider tyre. Prolonged rain will presumably turn it all to slush or wash it all away?

    Posted 4 months ago #
  10. redmist
    Member

    I was wondering about that - its almost like they've just poured dry cement on it - you can see a cloud of dust behind the cyclists and I'm not sure its doing my dog's paws much good. Do you think its "finished" ?

    Posted 4 months ago #
  11. mcairney
    Member

    Again bringing up my not-so unpopular opinion that unless it's passable on a pair of 25mm Conti GP5000's it's not fit for purpose :-)

    Posted 4 months ago #
  12. ejstubbs
    Member

    @redmist: Having just ridden that way myself today, I don't think it's cement - it looks too dark. I think it's whin dust which I don't believe is harmful by contact (inhalation might be a different issue, though).

    @mcairney: Someone passed me this afternoon on a road bike (looked too spindly to be a gravel bike) with what looked like ~28mm tyres - though with a fairly chunky-looking tread on them.

    @gembo: "Prolonged rain will presumably turn it all to slush or wash it all away?" Looks like we'll have a chance to find out this weekend and into next week...

    I noticed that, on top of fencing off the desire line at Woodhall Millbrae, 'they' appear to have ploughed up the surface and scattered uncomfortably large chunks of rock across it. Someone really doesn't want people to ride that way. (Almost predictably, while following the official path I had to brake and swerve to avoid a runner coming the other way who had chosen to cut the corner right at its blind apex.)

    Posted 4 months ago #
  13. mcairney
    Member

    I recently got my new winter road bike (Giant Defy Advanced Pro) after my previous one was stolen from my local bike store. Took a while to get delivery and insurance all sorted but got there in the end.
    It came with tubeless 32mm tyres out the box and will take up to 35mm according to the spec sheet so it'll likely make short work of these sorts of surfaces. I'm off to put a set of mudguards on in advance of tomorrow morning.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  14. chdot
    Admin

    Thread with photos

    https://twitter.com/JarlathFlynn/status/1567510904249503745

    Posted 4 months ago #
  15. Morningsider
    Member

    A similar, but slightly older, path in the Braids has seen its top layer washed away in places. This leaves a pretty rough stony surface. The Braids might be more prone to this, as the paths are generally steeper than along the WoL - but I reckon it is only a matter of time before it degrades pretty badly as well. I'm not talking years here, just a few severe downpours.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  16. gembo
    Member

    Came up path tonight, pretty good, some rivulets, some bits washed away. But distinctly better than after it ended until the actual Ultitrec.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  17. chdot
    Admin

    I understand the Council is now considering KBI Flexipave as the new surface for the Water of Leith Walkway.

    Flexipave is a 50/50 mix of tyre rubber, & natural stone aggregate.

    Details: http://kbiuk.co.uk/flexipave

    https://twitter.com/cllrscottarthur/status/1572942121837162496

    Posted 4 months ago #
  18. chdot
    Admin

    Is this instead of what they have just done, or elsewhere?

    Posted 4 months ago #
  19. gembo
    Member

    The current dust is holding out except in two places where tree routes or some other ingress have washed it away. But I doubt it will survive a wet winter.

    It stops just west of Juni Green

    So they could try the Flexi Pave from Balerno to the Ultitrec at Waulkmill then from Currie to the dust.

    Used it four times this week and it has been enjoyable but on gravel bike.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  20. ejstubbs
    Member

    I used the WoL walkway for the first time in a while last week (WoL/NEPN is ideal for my infrequent visits to the Craigleith shopping centre). The surface between the canal and West Mill Road seemed in good nick. I didn't go any further upstream.

    I did encounter some fairly significant stretches of degraded surface on the short stretch between Ford's Road and Gorgie Road. It looked like parts of the walkway had been eroded away by flowing water. I presume this was caused by the recent heavy rain. I couldn't see any signs of the river having risen to cover the path, and I'd be pretty surprised if it even managed to do that there (edit: but see below), so I assume it was caused by the local drainage failing to cope with sudden large quantities of rainwater. That stretch isn't well illuminated so if I hadn't been using a decent light (reference the discussion on this thread) then I could easily not have seen the eroded runoff channels clearly and been spat off my bike.

    The stretch from Gorgie Road to the WoL Visitor Centre was not as bad, but still had some signs of water erosion, and mud and debris washed on to the path from the surrounding areas.

    EDITED TO ADD: I note that the WoL Conservation Trust did report flooding on 30th December. No mention of the issues I encountered last week but it's worth noting that the bridge upstream from Belford bridge, by the Britannia Hotel, has been damaged and is currently closed. From the description of the damage it sounds like the bridge won't be re-opening in a hurry, which pretty much rules out the stretch of the walkway between Belford Bridge and Roseburn* for cycling, unless you enjoy humping your bike up or down long flights of steep steps (at Magdala Crescent, the Gallery of Modern Art, or from the Roseburn Path viaduct).

    * Again, that end of the walkway having only re-opened for bike access last year after the issue with the railings alongside hotel was finally resolved.

    Posted 2 weeks ago #
  21. steveo
    Member

    The stretch from Gorgie Road to the WoL Visitor Centre was not as bad, but still had some signs of water erosion, and mud and debris washed on to the path from the surrounding areas.

    I probably didn't have my light high enough on that section, the corners were a lot more exciting than previously with the fairly narrow tyres on the cdf. I think a layer of what felt like silt and was a bit loose on the corners.

    Unrelated the farm track between cubbidean and Kirkgate was a running burn and the loose wet pebbles that seem to be all that's left of the track in places was great fun on skinny tyres.

    Posted 2 weeks ago #
  22. HankChief
    Member

    @ejstubbs - the Water of Leith Trust have been doing some clean ups of the path since the flooding and also started work to resurface the Fords Rd section.

    More details in their twitter

    https://twitter.com/WOLCT/status/1612084273766359041?t=fvQDK-QhUZlZddC_u074wg&s=19

    Posted 2 weeks ago #

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