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russell road trambles

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  1. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Based on the way they have profiled the embankment, my money is it on being a double switchback or "W" shape, with 3 hairpin bends to negotiate on the way up.

    The pilings (highlighted pink/white) prevent anything like the original alignment being followed, and it would be much too steep to simply try and directly connect that bit to the higher part of the path.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  2. cb
    Member

    The hairpins will be pretty tight if there are three of them, although there should be plenty space for the one at the top.

    There's plenty of space to do things properly; with a bit of excavation further back up the existing path the gradient could be kept the same or made even more shallow.

    And another thing! This should already have been finished in a city that cared about cyclists.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  3. chdot
    Admin

    "This should already have been finished in a city that cared about cyclists."

    +1

    Though realistically it's perhaps better/inevitable to wait 'til the rest was finished.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  4. fimm
    Member

    Yes, I have been peering through the windows of the train on the way past and realised that there was a bit more tram stuff to go in, as kaputnik has shown. That is nothing like finished, so why should the path up the embankment be?

    Posted 11 years ago #
  5. kaputnik
    Moderator

    The diversion route had a new alignment this morning, differing from that of last night, with no ramp to drop the kerbs in 2 places. At the very least it's now slightly wider than it used to be, but the whole "ride along the pavment" thing is entirely illogical when there is a very wide and completely unused road sitting behind the fencing.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  6. cb
    Member

    "there was a bit more tram stuff to go in, as kaputnik has shown. That is nothing like finished, so why should the path up the embankment be?"

    Ok, not finished, but some better alternative. It would not have been difficult to maintain some kind of access, even if it was just temporary steps with a pushing ramp.
    That was just an aspirational thought really,

    Posted 11 years ago #
  7. Min
    Member

    It would have happened in a World Class Cycling City.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  8. RJ
    Member

    @ kaputnik - apparently the ramps had been removed as a "trip hazard" (I stopped, I asked, and got a slighlty exasperated explanation from a couple of workmen ...).

    Apparently too, things should be approaching old normal next week (though it'll be DETH on a greasy stick for anything on two wheels the first few times it rains, judging by the colour of the road surface).

    Posted 11 years ago #
  9. kaputnik
    Moderator

    perhaps they could remove the kerbs as a trip hazard while they're at it?

    Posted 11 years ago #
  10. chdot
    Admin

    k's diagram is apparently correct.

    One bit of the council hadn't told another that the plans had changed....

    Posted 11 years ago #
  11. Uberuce
    Member

    I'm looking warily at that, as an occasional trailernaut.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  12. chdot
    Admin

    "I'm looking warily at that"

    I'm sure we can arrange a 'first day mass ride' to see if it's fit for purpose...

    Posted 11 years ago #
  13. RJ
    Member

    <quote>perhaps they could remove the kerbs as a trip hazard while they're at it?</quote>
    That thought may have crossed my lips ;)

    Posted 11 years ago #
  14. Uberuce
    Member

    "I'm sure we can arrange"

    Your 8-Freight, SRD's Helios, Roibeard's Pino, any or all of of the 'bentanauts(monstrousbike from Arellcat, purdyplease), us trailernauts, Insto's fearsomely high geared singler...have I missed anything?

    Posted 11 years ago #
  15. chdot
    Admin

    "have I missed anything?"

    Anything from the Laidback shop.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  16. SRD
    Moderator

    How about Helios + trailer, as that is a route on which we would be likely to use that combo.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  17. crowriver
    Member

    Any tandem; the Ute; anything towing a trailer...

    Posted 11 years ago #
  18. Klaxon
    Member

    https://twitter.com/edintravel/status/239005718580195328

    @edintravel: Russell Road is expected to reopen at 6pm today. Please let us know if you see it's open & we'll RT (we're here until 7pm). #edintravel

    Posted 11 years ago #
  19. SRD
    Moderator

    woo-hoo - we should all go along for a celebratory ride... (just realised that doesn't mean the bike path, does it)

    Posted 11 years ago #
  20. cb
    Member

    That's a handy route available to me again when I'm in the car!

    I rather enjoyed it on the bike over the last year, despite the slow bit in the middle.

    Will it have been resurfaced?

    Posted 11 years ago #
  21. steveo
    Member

    Yup, it should now have a good thick layer of mud and diesel if other works round the trams are anything to go by.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  22. Snowy
    Member

    Russell Road was indeed open end-to-end at 7pm this evening as I walked to Murrayfield. Not a single car was seen using it, which was pleasant.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  23. chdot
    Admin

    "Not a single car was seen using it"

    Of course that won't last - but they've managed well enough for the past year, so why not keep it shut to through traffic??

    Posted 11 years ago #
  24. chdot
    Admin

    "
    Council transport convener Lesley Hinds said: “Russell Road is a key route connecting Roseburn and Murrayfield to Gorgie and Dalry, so it will make a noticeable difference to traffic flow having it open again.

    "

    http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/transport/tram-project-making-tracks-as-key-city-route-re-opens-1-2489299

    Posted 11 years ago #
  25. cb
    Member

    What are the black hangy-down things on the bridge for? (See pic in Scotsman article)

    Posted 11 years ago #
  26. LaidBack
    Member

    As a key entry route to the Roseburn path this could have been made so much better for cyclists. The previous turn onto the pavement was a textbook study of how not to do cycle infrastructure. Now with a longer darker tunnel of bridges is the time to re-do this.
    Mind you the proposed pram ramp onto the path supposes that bikes come in one size, go in one direction and never meet on corners.
    I can't think of anything touched by the tram that has improved matters for cyclists so far.

    Don't know what black things hanging from bridge are cb.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  27. Snowy
    Member

    I'm wondering if they are a simple early-warning device for high vehicles - they may be indicative of a lower bridge further on. Although you'd perhaps expect them to be marked in some way if so.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  28. stiltskin
    Member

    Yes. The railway bridge is lower than the tram one. It's to stop people from assuming that both are the same height and smacking the second one. Thank goodness the road has reopened. It has been a complete PITA having it closed.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  29. BikeFan
    Member

    http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/transport/groups-given-tram-trip-offer-1-2483700

    A charm offensive, eh? Stop that, you're ahead of me already . . .

    Posted 11 years ago #
  30. kaputnik
    Moderator

    The existing bridge has a habit of eating unwary double decker buses. I assume they've built the tram bridge to new specifications to accomodate them, even though the wide deck of the railway bridge can't.

    Posted 11 years ago #

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