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"This is what it means to cycle in Edinburgh"
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Posted 11 years ago #
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Wow. It took a full 10 minutes for the standard cliched comment to appear. The numpties are slacking...
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Really must set up the moron comments bingo card.
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"They are recordings made in a public place, effectively for private use and so long as the camera is switched off when in a building there is no Data Protection issue"
I wish people would research properly. Data Protection is around sensitive personal information - names, addresses, dates of birth and so on. I fail to see how wearing a camera in a building would breach Data Protection laws.
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I wonder if this has been hidden somewhere - only two comments?
What the moron fails to realise is that people DO put dashcams on as well - and remarkably they record much worse behaviour from fellow motorists. You will, of course, be able to record bad cycling - those of us using cameras here have done so, and have posted that on YouTube as well, but I still really really don't get this notion that there's a lawless band of cyclists wreaking havoc around the city, killing and maiming people and putting citizens in fear of even leaving their front doors.
What sort of a parallel universe do these people live in?
Posted 11 years ago # -
@anth, with some people I think it's just the prejudice of our age, in exactly the same way as previous generations had it in for people from Asia, or Africa, or Jews, or whatever.
Eventually these kind of comments will be a historical curiosity. It won't make to group "cyclists" together any more than "people who wear brown shoes".
We're not there yet though.
In the meantime, yeah - I record as much if not more interesting stuff when driving, via the quick release camera mount on the dash...
Posted 11 years ago # -
I think that's absolutely right. Just strange the way it creates this world where all you see is the bad - so glad I don't live with that kind of hate!
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"cyclists" together any more than "people who wear brown shoes""
Neither seem to be covered here -
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Good photo, you do look mean!
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For the record, I happily wear shoes of all colours (except pink).
Posted 11 years ago # -
Good photo, you do look mean!
You should see me when I'm trying not to laugh.
As it happens my headcam was running much of the time, so I've got a lot of footage of someone photographing me... very random!
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What's wrong with groups? People appear to *like* to be members of some groups, some 'cyclists' even like to class themselves as such.
What about groups like gender, should everyone be grouped as people rather than 'men' or 'women' in-case it offends? Perhaps we should have genderless names just to ensure there is no stigma? What if being grouped as 'people' offends?
What should we call things? </silly examples>
Sheesh, groups ARE fine.Posted 11 years ago # -
A whole discipline of academia crushed with one stroke of the keyboard :)
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@Dave, you'll have to explain that one... :o)
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I assumed Baldcyclist's critique was blasting the influential ingroup/outgroup component of sociology / social psychology.
See i.e. Ian Walker's comments halfway down http://www.bikebiz.com/news/read/cyclist-hatred-is-almost-like-racial-discrimination-says-aa-prez/013935
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Oh, of course. I've come across that concept, should have realised.
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Hatred, and how that is manifested is nothing to do with the term 'group', or using generic terms to identify people. It maybe gives them a 'word' to associate with the thing they don't like, but that is all.
I notice the article describes 'cyclists', as erm, 'cyclists' from start to finish?
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I was pleasantly surprised to hear such a rational viewpoint from the AA! Good article.
On a more prosaic point "In 2009, long before Twitter" could do with some adjustment - Twitter launched in 2006 and had reached 10 million tweets per day by mid-2009. </geek mode off>
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@baldcyclist: I'm not a sociologist or a psychologist, so I guess I don't feel particularly qualified to defend the field.
At the risk of seeming facetious, 'cyclists' *is* the generic term that identifies people. You can see good examples of its use in an out-group context on the EEN right now :P
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Speaking as a psychologist there is no doubt that in group out group definitions are real and research able concepts. I favour the work of Henri tajfel, now deceased and his protege Michael Billig.
Posted 11 years ago # -
lovely. think a troll just came after me on twitter because of mention in EEN article. anyone else?
of course, i was stupid enough to rise to his bait too..
[edit - i may have been wrong. think it is just a militant pedestrian new to twitter; edit, edited: says he drives for LB].
Posted 11 years ago # -
Like yo say a bored angry(ish) bus driver with a serious case of confirmation bias! But I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
I must admit, I'm not sure I'd like my twitter name attached to any thing in EECW far to easy for some of the morons to take things too far.
Posted 11 years ago # -
Min->Dave: Good photo, you do look mean!
You should see me when I'm trying not to laugh.
You should see the photo I have of him lurking under a bridge during a tree-trimming downpour...
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