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not a support questionLooking at a cycle to Lockerbie on Friday and the train back, perhaps the opposite way round depending on which way the wind blows. I see its an hour on the train but The TrainLine does not show the route. Does this go via Glasgow or is it direct? Is there anywhere online which shows the routes, or at least stations on route?
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Dave C
You can definitely go direct on some (though not all) Virgin West Coast services. The Virgin Trains website should have a timetable.
It should at least show on TheTrainline if there are any changes, which would tell you if it's direct... As for maps, no idea I'm afraid.
p.s. TheTrainline doesn't appear to let you book bike spaces online, but Scotrail does (just booked a couple of train journeys for Monday - as you know, given you commented on FB! ;) )
Are you coming across the bridge? Lockerbie is on the WCML before Carlisle, so normally you'd be on a train out of Haymarket via Carstairs. First Transpennine does the route to Manchester Airport, stopping at Lockerbie.
Real Time Trains for Friday 3rd will show you all of the trains that stop at Lockerbie (in either direction).
Failing that, for a slightly longer option, Carlisle is served a bit more often.
For a relatively direct route home you'd probably have to navigate the A7 up to Langholm, which is wide but can be a tad hairy on the straights, but once there you can turn west and come up through Eskdalemuir.
Cheers, My collegue was thinking about 120km as thats what he did last Friday when I left him at Perth to ride home ;o)
We're leaving Edinburgh Waverly after work Friday early afternoon. I'll mention Carlisle :D but I think he may boak at that!
This one is good -
http://www.projectmapping.co.uk/Resources/TOCs%20AS%20v6.5%20May%202013.pdf
Seems to have ALL stations.
This is missing some tram stops!
http://www.projectmapping.co.uk/Resources/TOCs%20AS%20v5.4d%202018.pdf
The tip about bike spaces on Scotrail is handy!! Cheers.
"This one is good"
That is a really ugly GB outline map.
I think I prefer this one (for Scotland at any rate). Is this not the one (or based on the one) that is displayed on the trains?
I like the mirroring of the triangular Mull and Skye.
http://www.projectmapping.co.uk/Reviews/Resources/Scotrail%20network%20FSR2008.jpg
To any discussion about train maps, I have to throw in this one, just because I like speeding up real time...
Live Train mapping
Last time I looked into this the Lockerbie train terminated at the Manchester Airport and, as such, the operator wouldn't guarantee bike spaces - EVEN IF PRE-BOOKED - as other passengers might have lots of luggage. We ended up getting the train to Carlisle and returning up the A7 to Langholm then over via Eskdalemuir and Innerleithen. The A7 wasn't very busy. A great ride. Remember to stop at the Monastery for food!
Yes others (elsewhere) have pointed out how boring the B7076 is. I have considered instead riding up the B723 to Samye Ling and then north to the B709 and then north towards Innerleithen and then along the B7062 to Peebles and north on the A703.
* is the correct answer * :-)
Unless you are heading for West Edinburgh, don't discount the extension of the B709 north of Innerleithen either.
Apologies for duff info - the only Virgin Trains that stop at Lockerbie go to/from Glasgow.
As for the TPE trains to Manc Airport, we've booked bikes on them a couple of times and they've been *okay* (in as far as not being wilfully obstructive), but the bike space doubles as fold down seats, so on one occasion I did have to have a "discussion" with a lady who seemed to think that, although we had reserved the bike space, she and her family should take priority because the train was quite busy and if they moved they would have to sit in two groups. She must have been having a bad day. Thankfully her husband was a bit more considerate and persuaded her to shift.
I caught the Transpennine express to Lockerbie from Edinburgh on a Saturday morning last summer. About an hour direct, as mentioned via Haymarket, Carstairs etc. No other bikes in sight.
Lovely cycle back to Edinburgh - quiet roads via Eskdalemuir, Gordon Arms, Innerleithen. Highly recommended.
Those TPE trains are the worst. Cheap, plasticy interiors, ride quality like a Firstbus and big lack of luggage space for a train meant to be an airport / intercity service.
Those TPE trains have a big lack of passenger space too! When I have meetings in Manchester I'm invariably shoehorned onto the TPE train homewards, and having a seat booked in advance is completely pointless until you get north of Carlisle.
Yes they also seem to act as a local service from Lancashire into Mancashire. You get the same (briefly) on the ECML if you are on a train that does the stops around the northeast - Morpeth, Alnwick, Durham etc.
Yes they also seem to act as a local service from Lancashire into Mancashire
100% correct. I'm living in Chorley now so use these trains for their "proper" purpose of Intercity trains when I'm coming back up to Edinburgh or going to Machester Airport, and also for their "other" purpose of being the quicker commuter option to Preston, Bolton or Manchester.
They are cr@p as intercity trains and personally I think it's a disgrace that First have even been allowed to use them for what should be an intercity franchise (or is that an out of date BR phrase?!). They're also not great as commuter trains, mostly due to there not being enough carriages for the number of people using the service. Still much better than the Northern Rail alternative, which is still running Sprinters, and occasionally even Pacers if you get really unlucky. Northern also take longer of course, due to stopping at all the intermediate stations.
Scotrail is a kind of nirvana compared to trains down here, though at least there are loads of lines and stations I suppose so it's not all bad...
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