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This is a follow on from the "slow down" thread;
So far the list of problem chicanes is;
Hope lane bridge over Harry Lauder Road,
Innocent railway,
St Mary's , Leith Links,
H2EP, Broomhall/Ladywell
End of Balgreen / Corstorphine path at Paddockholm.
Bridge at the mouth of the Esk.
Any more?
As the title implies-these affect wheelchair/scooter users, not just cyclists.
Who do we ask to rectify?
Path from Aldi to Slateford Green;
Canal exit to Hermiston village
As the title implies-these affect wheelchair / scooter users, not just cyclists.
A 2.8m long velomobile with a turning circle of more than 11 metres also finds a remarkable number of restrictions to off-road use, particularly in staggered barriers.
This is possibly the same one as 'the mouth of the Esk': http://goo.gl/maps/vg4h5 which would be a useful connection to avoid the inevitable car-based congestion of the high street.
Yes, that's the one.
How does the velomobile cope with speedbumps?
Bridge over the canal from the end of Westburn Middlefield / Middleknowe. Highly annoying as it means a lengthy detour with multiple traffic lights to the next bridge over.
Good heavens, Dave. Is that for real? :-o
Westburn Middlefield on Streetview
@tammytroot, actually just fine, as long as they're regular tarmac bumps and not the yellow and black plastic ones that try to destroy your bike.
Is that for real? :-o
Time for some gorilla grinding?
Not strictly a chicane, but this roadside barrier, coupled with the stone pillar at the entrance gate at the top of the 'zig zag' access to Albion Road up from the Lochend path makes it very tricky to get to the (deliberately misaligned) toucan crossing: http://goo.gl/maps/0q9wA
Again, not really a chicane but these traffic barriers, chevron signs and lamp posts may as well be, such is the excessive narrowing effect of their presence on the Council's 'flagship' off road route down Seafield Road: http://goo.gl/maps/I8j5S
Again, no strictly a chicane, but this crossing makes it as difficult as humanly possible to cycle across the toucan and continue on to Fishwives' Causeway. The fence, the deliberate misalignment leading to a wall, the traffic sign plonked right in the way! http://goo.gl/maps/pZ8Sd
Ironic indeed that this sign/chicane advertises the cycle route into the centre!
http://goo.gl/maps/kn6Mt
Are the barriers at the Esk bridge not now either removed or eased following the removal of the Cyclist dismount signs?
Blueth: "Are the barriers at the Esk bridge not now either removed or eased following the removal of the Cyclist dismount signs?"
The barriers, which are to prevent children running straight into the road on the wayto/from the playing fields (according to my local neighbourhood bobby) were recently replaced. The signs were also replaced. Thread here.
I seem to remember the bridge over the motorway at Newbridge had some tricky bollards to negotiate.
I was pootling along with No.2 daughter on Fishwives' Causeway yesterday, when I was pleasantly surprised, nay gobsmacked, to see the offending signposts had been moved at the junction of the Causeway and A199.
It is now much easier to cycle to/from the Toucan crossing and Fishwive's Causeway. Good stuff, but why on earth was it plonked in the way in the first place?
Very quick action taken too: are CEC officers reading this thread I wonder? ;-)
Surprised a wheelchair can get through all that.
Anyone know of similar guidance in Scotland? Cycling by Design suggests gap widths for bollards and chicanes, but often there are multiple rows of barriers.
As a manual wheelchair user I'm sure I could get through there without problems, I'm not sure about larger powerchairs and mobility scooters though...
The graphic is very good, barriers tend to be used in an attempt to limit illegal use, often by motorcycles but unfortunately they just tend to stop legal use by people like me ):
Areas I avoid when handcycling around Edinburgh are the speed bumps on NCN 1 at Balbirnie Place (as I ground on them) and the footbridge on NCN 1 over the river Esk near Monktonhall as the drop off going east is bigger than any kerb!
There are also the (probably illegal) barriers at each end of NCN 76 at both the Dalmeny and Hopetoun estates. The barriers at Hopetoun at the quarry gate and Deer Park road are especially irritating as I used to regularly handcycle through the estate this way before the route was changed and the ridiculous gates were installed around 15(?) years ago.
There are lots of chicanes that are passable with difficulty like those either end of the Goose Green footbridge in Musselburgh and the bridge over the Newbridge roundabout. I haven't tried to go west along the canal for many years after finding several barriers between the city and Broxburn but I understand the gates along the canal have been opened and it might now be passable all the way to Falkirk.
Things have improved no end in Edinburgh over the past 20 years though I now tend to stick to roads.
Great to have a view from another perspective. Low down bikes/trikes and handcycles are one set of path users excluded by careless barrier placement. Of course public is confused between those wanting to use non standard bikes and those with no other option. Council does have 'paths for all' group -not sure where that is up to on this.
Forumers and Spokes members have intervened in past on Innocent tunnel and more recently on multiple barrier array near Bingham.
The route over bridge to Portobello was one barracaded off and despite being revised twice is still wrong.
The knock on effect as you say is that more 'non standard' bikes are on roads with general traffic.
If you are hand cyclist often seen on Holyrood Park roads then you'll have had 'mixed' experiences of sharing the park with fossil powered vehicles (other thread on that here somewhere)
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