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THE Helmet Thread

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  • Started 10 years ago by Wilmington's Cow
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  1. gembo
    Member

    The first article from 2014 starts strongly. Riskier to get head injuries in a car. Teenage drivers should wear helmets. This is seen as prepsoterous.

    Weaker on helmets cause injuries. As Ian Walker gave up on wigs etc and went with nothing works build infra. And neck injuriy research IIRC is the old leather Sean Connery helmets?

    Not sure why it is out and about? Published 2014 and citing 1978 research.

    The second article not really about Helmets but about The Tragedy of the Commons.

    Both were good reads. Thanks @fimm

    Posted 2 years ago #
  2. Baldcyclist
    Member

    Oh, this thread popping up a good reminder to go an buy a lid before going back to office in Oct.

    Cracked my last one in two falling off a skateboard.

    (not making any points)

    Posted 2 years ago #
  3. mcairney
    Member

    I’ve been saved from severe injury by a helmet in the past (though that did involve coming off on loose gravel flying down Maidens Cleugh on a MTB and a Boulder to helmet collision). And I probably do wear one more often than not but I’d quite like to not be compelled to wear one even fir a trip to the shops

    Posted 2 years ago #
  4. chdot
    Admin

    “did involve coming off on loose gravel flying down Maidens Cleugh on a MTB and a Boulder to helmet collision“

    Few people would suggest that such helmet use was inappropriate.

    There is an argument that helmets encourage (some) people to be more bold/reckless.

    Similar arguments have been used about seatbelts…

    Posted 2 years ago #
  5. Greenroofer
    Member

    I had a thought about pedestrian head injuries quoted. I wonder how many of these arise when someone faints or collapses and falls backwards without breaking their fall, hitting the back of their skull on the ground. Falls like this are what cause the tragic one-punch kills outside pubs.

    Falls off a bike will usually have a forward or sideways component, so perhaps less likely to have the head strike the ground directly.

    Just goes to show how complicated this question is.

    The answer, though, is safe infrastructure.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  6. chdot
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  7. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    https://twitter.com/EdinPolNE/status/1600800954214977537

    "4 cyclists stopped and spoken in regards to various matters including lack of lights and protective headwear

    6 roadside breath tests conducted - all negative result"

    Posted 1 year ago #
  8. chdot
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  9. chdot
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  10. chdot
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    I’m often asked about/criticised over posting pics on my upright bike without wearing a helmet. This piece explains why it’s a much more nuanced debate than most people take the time for. If you’re interested, please do read in full. Thanks
    @rouleur for the space to explore.

    https://x.com/SportsOrla/status/1722883794124845282

    BIGGER

    Mostly reasonable DM piece

    The broadcaster encouraged people not to respond to posts on her social media accounts with negative responses but asked people instead to lobby their local MPs for better cycling safety initiatives.

    The UK Government's stance remains that it encourages helmet wearing but hasn't introduced legislation to make it illegal to not wear one - despite multiple attempts in recent years by politicians to change the law.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12734403/amp/Eurosport-presenter-Orla-Chennaoui-sparks-backlash-cycling-without-helmet-including-16mph-e-bike-claiming-SAFER-not-wear-one-makes-drivers-careful.html

    Posted 6 months ago #
  11. chdot
    Admin

    "I had cyclists telling me I was a disgrace for saying my helmet saved my life": Dan Walker recalls helmet backlash after being knocked off bike by driver

    https://road.cc/content/news/dan-walker-recalls-helmet-backlash-after-driver-hit-him-306887

    Posted 3 months ago #

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