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"Residents fear gridlock if housing plans get go-ahead"

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  1. chdot
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  2. crowriver
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    It strikes me the residents of Cammo are concerned that their cars will get stuck in jams created by 'others'. Thus ignoring the proverbial elephant in the room...

    Posted 12 years ago #
  3. AKen
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    Extending the tram line North from the depot to serve this new development would be relatively simple as it's green fields with only the railway line to be bridged. I'd add this as a comment on the Scotsman website but the meltdown of righteous indignation could bring the internet down with it.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  4. "It strikes me the residents of Cammo are concerned that their cars will get stuck in jams created by 'others'. Thus ignoring the proverbial elephant in the room..."

    Indeed. There's a quote in there as well that the traffic will get worse especially at rush hour. Really it's only rush hour where there are major problems there, which does hint at public transport and cycle solutions tot he daily commute really. But no, can't possibly expect the good residents to think outside the (metal) box.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  5. fimm
    Member

    I read the long article about Freiburg linked to from the Copenhaganise thread. When a new housing development was put in, they started the planning with a main street that has a new tram line running through it, and all the housing is within easy walking distance of the tram line...

    The whole article is worth reading.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  6. PS
    Member

    Really it's only rush hour where there are major problems there

    It's only rush hour where there are major problems anywhere in Edinburgh, as far as I can see [caveated with the comment that I tend to only see the city centre].

    OT, but I keep meaning to take a photo of George Street/St Andrew Square at the evening rush hour. Honestly, there are days when there are no vehicles (apart from parked cars) in sight at all, just people walking across the empty four lanes of tarmac. And yet civilisation as we know would come to an end if motor vehicle access were restricted...

    Posted 12 years ago #
  7. PS
    Member

    @fimm Similar story from Hong Kong - I remember seeing a new town being built in the New Territories. The very first structure to go up was the MTR (metro) station.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  8. neddie
    Member

    @fimm

    When a new housing development was put in, they started the planning with a main street that has a new tram line

    I agree. I've long thought that councils should only allow out-of-town developments (e.g. Hermiston Gait, Straiton) to be built next to existing train stations (or tram stops) rather than next to existing road junctions.

    I'm sure the developers would then be 'happy' to add the (what they see as) necessary road infra to the development. Try getting them to add a railway line - it's a whole 'nother matter!

    Posted 12 years ago #
  9. wingpig
    Member

    Not seen it on a weekday rush hour for a while but it can get quite tedious going Maybury-Road-to-Queensferry-Road across that junction at any point on a Sunday afternoon, irrespective of the time of year, which is why I use the bypass if I'm driving. I assume the weekday peak usage pattern is different to that seen at the weekend. I wonder if they have some sort of algorithm based on the housing size/price band/style to estimate a new development's vehicle flux and the potential effect on nearby choke points.

    Also OT, but related to a previous OT: one morning last week I was running late so took the most direct route all the way up Leith Walk. At about a quarter to nine between Duke St and Lorne St I had the road to myself.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  10. amir
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    When a new housing development was put in, they started the planning with a main street that has a new tram line

    Isn't that the plan with Shawfair (substitute train for tram)?

    Posted 12 years ago #
  11. chdot
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    "
    The proposed local development plan says the junction capacity would be boosted to cope with extra traffic by “increasing the efficiency of the traffic signals”.

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    http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/latest-news/plan-for-2000-homes-at-maybury-threatens-gridlock-1-2971142

    Posted 12 years ago #
  12. kaputnik
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    sounds to me like Colin Keir wants the bypass extended as far as Maybury

    Posted 12 years ago #

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