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Places that don't give bike access/parking instructions

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  1. Instography
    Member

    Priceless

    Posted 10 years ago #
  2. chdot
    Admin

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    Cycling Edinburgh (@CyclingEdin)
    03/08/2013 00:25
    Is it true that @planningedin approved this without considering pedestrian safety?

    citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.…

    @LAHinds @SandyHowatSNP

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    Cycling Edinburgh (@CyclingEdin)
    03/08/2013 08:45
    “@LAHinds: @CyclingEdin I will ask planning if they had any input and get cycling team to get in touch with Tesco”

    Thanks

    "

    Posted 10 years ago #
  3. gembo
    Member

    Does this sign still just say Hello?

    What is the point of putting up a sign saying hello?

    Entrance maybe, but that is further up the street and would helpfully say entrance only

    Is there another sign at the exit saying Goodbye?

    Posted 10 years ago #
  4. cb
    Member

    I emailed the Sheriff Court about their making no mention of cycling in their travel information.

    But what annoyed me more (and also mentioned in my email) was that when claiming travel expenses, using a taxi is acceptable, but claiming for a bicycle requires justification (why didn't you use public transport?). Apparently a taxi is public transport.

    I'm not claiming any expenses - just complaining.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  5. cb.pola
    Member

    Have just sent an email to Tesco as well.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  6. PS
    Member

    Also bad is the whopping great sign at the entrance which restricts sightlines for peds crossing the car lane. It obscures from view any cars coming for the west, which ain't great.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  7. cb.pola
    Member

    Result!? Just had this reply from Tesco Customer Services. :)

    Thank you for your reply.

    I have now spoken to Claire, Duty Manager who has advised that the store are already aware of this and it is being investigated and will definitely be moved.

    Once again, thank you for contacting me.

    Kind regards

    Carly Newton
    Tesco Customer Service

    Posted 10 years ago #
  8. Woo hoo!

    Posted 10 years ago #
  9. chdot
    Admin

    @cb.pola (and anyone else who has had a similar email) could suggest a wider review of the whole area and point out that Transport Convenor Leslie Hinds has told the CEC Cycle Team to make contact.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  10. SRD
    Moderator

    Just catching up on this thread - well done everyone.

    Do none of tesco's staff cycle to work?

    Posted 10 years ago #
  11. HankChief
    Member

    Back to the Royal Highland Showground. ..

    I duly turned up at Gate 1 - East entrance as requssted and asked the steward for the secure bike parking and....

    Surprise surprise, he didn't know where that was.

    He was very helpful though and let my lock up the tandem just inside the fence using the fence posts for my locks and he kept an eye on it for me.

    Needless to say ours was the only bike there when we returned as well, but can't be a surprise if they don't advertise it.

    I'll feed this back to RHS.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  12. BenN
    Member

    @Everyone who has had an email advising Tesco sign will be moved - I started it and didn't get one! :-(

    (Personal pity over, at least we got somewhere with it!)

    Posted 10 years ago #
  13. HankChief
    Member

    @BenN - I didn't get one either. I put that down to my forthright language... I still can't believe their policy of a complaint threshold for H&S issues.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  14. chdot
    Admin

    "
    Edinburgh Planning (@planningedin)
    05/08/2013 16:17

    @CyclingEdin That's good news. We passed this onto the case officer this morning so will give them an update.

    "

    Is anyone in direct contact with the store?

    Posted 10 years ago #
  15. chdot
    Admin

    "I put that down to my forthright language"

    That doesn't sound like you - you musta got proper annoyed!

    Posted 10 years ago #
  16. HankChief
    Member

    "you musta got proper annoyed!"

    Indeed. It's just the pointlessness of democratising something that really should just be done through common courtesy to check the complaint is valid and then common sense to get it fixed.

    It felt like they were treating it like a request to stock a very particular brand of cheese or something rather than a health & safety issue.

    In this day & age of social media, what did they expect BenN to do when they told him they need a certain number of complaints to be taken seriously. He's either going to grumble to himself and put up with it or he's going to make a fuss and find other interested parties to join his complaint - which as proven isn't that hard on the interweb. It just puts the onus of the complainant to push it through, when it really should be them.

    Couldn't see the same thing happening if you pointed out a puddle on the floor that someone could slip on, so why in this case.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  17. chdot
    Admin

    Apparently sign isn't supposed to be where it is.

    H1 on plan - though I can't work out where it's meant to be!

    All docs.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  18. BenN
    Member

    A good spot (and a reprieve for the planning department!). Looks like the offending 'Hello' sign is supposed to be part of a larger barrier installation where the road rises about 1m above the cycle path on the approach - no danger to anyone there. The location it has been sighted at is noted on the plan as D9, which should be a nice little pedestrian and cyclist sign pointing them to the store!

    Kind of makes you wonder though, how often are plans that are approved just completely ignored by the companies in the final build - and whether any inspection actually takes place?!?

    Posted 10 years ago #
  19. chdot
    Admin

    "Kind of makes you wonder though, how often are plans that are approved just completely ignored by the companies in the final build - and whether any inspection actually takes place?!?"

    There have been plenty of instances where CEC hasn't 'checked' and also where planning permission wasn't detailed enough to make enforcement possible.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  20. wingpig
    Member

    The NRM Shildon doesn't seem to want bikes near it, but has a few fences and lampposts.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  21. chdot
    Admin

    Latest about Tesco Canonmills -

    "

    On 7 Aug 2013, at 15:17, customer.service@tesco.co.uk wrote:

    Dear Chdot

    I refer to your complaint about the sign in our Cannon Mills, Broughton Road, Edinburgh store.

    I have today heard back form the store and I have been told that they have received a few complaints in store also and they have requested the Hello sign next to the cycle path be moved.
    This has been agreed so they we are just waiting on a plan of works.

    They would appreciate your patience while they are waiting for the work to go ahead.

    Thank you for bringing this to our attention.

    Kind regards

    Tesco Customer Service

    "

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    I also ask that the whole area and the access to the path network is looked at again.

    I am disappointedthat this seems to be 'the responsibility of the local store'.

    Tesco should be more interested in how its customers get to its stores.

    A considerable number walk and cycle to this store (and presumably other ones) the connection between the path network and the store's grounds is unnecessarily restricted - there is a long common border and a desire line through a hedge.

    Improving this should lead to more customers. (People on foot/bicycle tend to shop more often too.)

    If people choose to walk/cycle instead of driving there will be less (expensive) wear to access road and car park.

    "

    Posted 10 years ago #
  22. chdot
    Admin

    No idea what this could be about...

    "

    James Wrobel (@corneliusbeers)
    08/08/2013 12:35
    @CyclingEdin @UKTesco @UKHandS @Edinburgh_CC @CllrJimOrr @sustrans It looks like they might be moving the BIG HELLO OF DEATH this morning

    "

    Posted 10 years ago #
  23. giantsbrae
    Member

    Shopped yesterday at Tesco,Cannonmills,hello/goodbye sign has been moved up the hill.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  24. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Turned up at Bruntsfield Medical Centre today and was fuming because of not even a convenient lamp post to lock a bike up to. Nothing in the extensive staff car park. No railings either and the entrance sign had wooden legs so wasn't going to bother.

    Found a parking restrictions pole further down the street that would accept a D-lock without bike blocking pavement.

    Got inside the front door to find out they've got dedicated cycle parking inside, with lengths of pole on either side for locking bikes to!

    Posted 10 years ago #
  25. cb
    Member

    Yeah, the Bruntsfield Medical Practice is pretty good for bike parking. You could maybe subtract a point for it not being obvious from the outside although their website does mention the details (which is what this thread is about)

    https://www.bruntsfieldmedicalpractice.co.uk/about/the-premises

    Posted 10 years ago #
  26. SRD
    Moderator

    Sad to have to nominate the Commie Pool in this category: http://deceasedcanine.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/we-have-large-customer-car-park.html

    Nice to see that the Zoo has finally replaced the crappy racks we complained about with slightly better positioned ones.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  27. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Agree with you here SRD. Plenty bikes but actually getting to them through the car park is a chore of badly-parked vehicles and involves turning down Holyrood Park Road and fighting off the vehicles that immediately try to pass you as you try and move across to the right hand side of the right hand lane to make the turn.

    There's oodles of pavement space and it wouldnt' take much imagination to create a safe bike entrance of the sort on Bruntsfield Place at the end of Leamington Walk.

    "World class" sports facilities with parochial thought given to how people get there. Judging by the contents of the café, Edinburgh Leisure's health-and-fitness remit clearly does not extend between when you arrive and pay your entry fee and then leave the changing rooms on the way out..

    Posted 10 years ago #
  28. SRD
    Moderator

    yes, access to the racks could be much better in many ways. was saving that for another post....

    Posted 10 years ago #
  29. SRD
    Moderator

    Commie Pool - and other EL centres - now have bike directions! (At the bottom of the page)

    Posted 10 years ago #
  30. chdot
    Admin

    Has link to CycleStreets!

    http://www.edinburghleisure.co.uk/venues/royal-commonwealth-pool/how-find-us

    Just needs to go a bit further and customise -

    http://www.cyclestreets.net/journey/to/55.93935,-3.17356/Royal+Commonwealth+Pool

    (And for all other venues.)

    ThisISedinburgh should too!

    Posted 10 years ago #

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