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'Mutual respect'/NICEWAYCODE

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  1. chdot
    Admin

    "Does anyone like this campaign?"

    Possibly -

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    South Ayrshire (@southayrshire)
    19/08/2013 11:20
    Pedestrians are fragile, look out for them when driving or cycling - follow the Nice Way Code

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    Posted 11 years ago #
  2. slowcoach
    Member

    wc "... motorists who are holding up society ..."
    Chambers Dictionary: hold something up 1 to support it. 2 to delay or hinder it. See also hold-up (1 a delay or setback. 2 an attack with a view to robbery.)

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  3. minus six
    Member

    They've really surpassed themselves with the middle finger advert.

    This anti-cycling propaganda - for there is no other way to describe it - is paid for by active travel budget !

    I have to assume that Transport Scotland signed off on the campaign material having actually seen it first.

    Can't quite bring myself to believe there is a deliberate political war against active travel, but its hard to imagine them getting it any more wrongheaded than this.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  4. fimm
    Member

    Marco Biagi is my MSP too - I keep meaning to email him through the "write to them" site - I can't decide wheter to start off with something about "i know you've heard a lot about this already, here's another one..." or just plough straight in with "why is money being spent on this rubbish?"

    I've complained to the ASA about the middle finger advert.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  5. crowriver
    Member

    @fimm, methinks the latter, otherwise he'll suspect collusion with other petitioners...

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  6. chdot
    Admin

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    A Better Way to Work (@better_way)
    19/08/2013 16:57
    Call into the Bike Station in Glasgow for your copy of the new @nicewaycode guide book with road tips n hints, they're the talk of the town!

    "

    Not sure if Glasgow and Edinburgh versions of BS have same view.

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  7. chdot
    Admin

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    ZenBike UK (@ZenBike_UK)
    19/08/2013 17:54
    @danoh1 Hi Dan. I think it would be even better if the distance was clearly stated. What does @nicewaycode say?

    http://pic.twitter.com/TVDH9hBKQG

    "

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  8. chdot
    Admin

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    The Niceway Code is clearly invalidating my angry response by telling me that I should tolerate whatever it is drivers, the dominant group in society, dish out. They can act in ways that endanger my life but being rude back just isn’t nice and I shouldn’t do it. I should be polite. The Niceway Code is attempting to police my conduct, to shut me up, to take away the one defence I do have when drivers threaten me and that’s to be thoroughly impolite back. Frankly I think a one-fingered salute is a pretty minor response to imminent death but according to NWC it is ‘wrong’.

    "

    http://www.helenblackman.wordpress.com/2013/08/19/power-politeness-and-the-invalidation-of-anger

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  9. chdot
    Admin

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    Vernon Baseley (@VernonBaseley)
    19/08/2013 19:05
    @Downfader @CTC_Cyclists @nicewaycode It's not condescending as it's addressed to offenders who don't appear to know better.

    "

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  10. KarenJS
    Member

    Niceway code have a guide book! Anyone seen one?

    Posted 11 years ago #
  11. chdot
    Admin

    Posted 11 years ago #
  12. KarenJS
    Member

    "Does anyone like this campaign?"

    Most positive response I've seen so far:

    @danoh1
    Excellent advertising campaign. Thoroughly agree with this @nicewaycode ow.ly/i/2UGzg - 19 Aug

    Booklet looks to be of the usual high quality we have come to expect of the niceway code ;)

    Posted 11 years ago #
  13. @urbaneprofessor
    Hi @nicewaycode can you remind your partner @firstscotland that their drivers should give me 1.5 space when over taking....1/2

    @nicewaycode
    @urbaneprofessor Our code advises that drivers should give same space to a cyclist as they do when overtaking a car - http://t.co/9a0bxFyv0V

    Right, so not 1.5m of space then NWC? Just a slightly vague 'as much space as a car'. Which is 'your' code is it? Isn't that just what the 'HIGHWAY' Code states?

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  14. Apologies if this has been asked/raised before and for my laziness in not reading back through the thread.

    I notice one of the NWC partners/members is the Bike Station. Have they responded to the public reaction/stooshie to NWC, or indeed anyones specific questions to them?

    I may contact them if no one else here has.

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  15. chdot
    Admin

    I presume you mean the BS in Edinburgh?

    I think they have been silent so far.

    Ask them for a copy of the NWC booklet.

    Glasgow BS seems quite enthusiastic about it all.

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  16. amir
    Member

    I'd like to make a comment on the NWC Facebook site. However the "slideshare" app want access to my personal info such as friends etc. What I would have said is this:

    "I really don't like this campaign. It's small minded and it makes me embarrassed to live in Scotland. If the campaign was meant to improve the situation, why wasn't some proper research done? There's plenty of it around to review"

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  17. cc
    Member

    The Bike Station! The CTC I could understand but I'm shocked that the Bike Station could put its name to this shambles. I thought it was a decent pro-cycling organisation, not a supporter of ignorant anti-cycling drivel.

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  18. minus six
    Member

    Glasgow BS seems quite enthusiastic about it all.

    Career-minded local manager, no doubt.

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  19. chdot
    Admin

    "I'm shocked that the Bike Station could put its name to this shambles"

    I believe they were shown some of the materials and strongly advised that they should be altered.

    I'm just disappointed that the organisation is maintaining an undignified silence -

    like CTC, Sustrans etc.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  20. crowriver
    Member

    Bike Station are members of Cycling Scotland, are they not? Might explain the ambiguity...

    http://www.cyclingscotland.org/partners/members

    Mind you, Spokes are members too, as are CTC (Scotland and UK). Haven't seen Spokes endorsing the campaign...

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  21. fimm
    Member

    The more I think about that advert, the more angry I get... Helen Blackman's blog post is really good, as ususal, thank you for the link.

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  22. Instography
    Member

    I suspect it's more a question of being unable to openly bite the hand that feeds.

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  23. chdot
    Admin

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    Jake Bate (@JakeyBate)
    20/08/2013 11:33
    Response from the ASA re @nicewaycode. Not going to take my complaint further, but to be fair wrote a detailed and personalised email. #meh

    "

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  24. chdot
    Admin

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    Eco Warrior Me (@EcoWarriorMe)
    20/08/2013 13:15
    Scottish Roads Partnership to carry out £415m motorway upgrade http://bbc.in/18Hkfpm > Puts the #nicewaycode spending into perspective.

    "

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  25. Morningsider
    Member

    Great news for the Scottish economy! Oh, wait - the Scottish Roads Partnership is made up of Ferrovail Agroman (Spanish) and Lagan Construction (Northern Irish)

    At least the price is fixed at £415m. Oh, wait - it isn't.

    At least it isn't one of those nasty PFI projects. Oh, wait - non-profit distributing is just another name for PFI.

    At least...well, I think you get the picture.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  26. Roibeard
    Member

    I wonder what the ASA complaint was about - I've raised one regarding the print obscenity, but not had a response.

    Robert

    Posted 11 years ago #
  27. chdot
    Admin

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    Nice Way Code (@nicewaycode)
    20/08/2013 16:07
    @CityCycling @SeonBaird @VeloVeritas1 @CyclingEdin The campaign wants all road user to be respectful of each other.

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  28. chdot
    Admin

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    Nice Way Code (@nicewaycode)
    20/08/2013 16:12
    @CityCycling @SeonBaird @VeloVeritas1 @CyclingEdin Our ads do not set-out to berate anyone.

    "

    Posted 11 years ago #
  29. "Our ads do not set-out to berate anyone"

    Isn't it time you grew out of cycling on the pavement...?

    Posted 11 years ago #
  30. PS
    Member

    @WC That's not berating, that's patronising. ;)

    Posted 11 years ago #

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