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  1. fimm
    Member

    Naughty white van crashes into a cottage.
    "A white van has crashed through the front door of a listed 16th Century thatched cottage. It is thought the vehicle came off at a bend on Ampthill Road, in Maulden, Bedfordshire, on Tuesday before it crossed a grass verge, went through a hedge and embedded itself in the house."

    The van lived up to the reputation of vehicles of its kind, and kidnapped a most unfortunate gentleman:

    "A 34-year-old man from Maulden was arrested on suspicion of being unable to drive through drink or drugs."

    Posted 4 months ago #
  2. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Married couple knocked down and killed by car while out walking

    A vicious and vindictive vehicle.

    "Detectives are not looking for anyone else in relation to the incident but are appealing for any witnesses or anyone who may have dash cam footage to contact them on 101"

    Just the car then.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  3. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    Police very keen to get hands on dashcam footage for fatalities, but most forces (including our own) default to being happy to ignore and fob off such evidence of 'lesser' crimes on dashcam/headcam if contact is not made by luck. For me, it's the opposite of preventative policing.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  4. douglaswaring
    Member

    BBC thumbnail synopsis causes hope that reporting of traffic related incidents has "turned a corner" - hope dashed.

    "The B&M lorry driver wedged the truck under the cycle path bridge on Crewe Road North in Edinburgh."

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-41795837

    Posted 3 months ago #
  5. dougal
    Member

    A twofer on the BBC today:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-41856011

    "A man has died after being struck by a car in Aberdeen.

    The 29-year-old was hit by a Renault Megane on the A947 between Stoneywood roundabout and Mugiemoss Road at about 00:30."

    No apparent driver.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-41858923

    "A man in a wheelchair who was struck by an articulated lorry has died in hospital.

    ...

    The 52-year-old lorry driver was uninjured."

    Well that's a relief eh?

    Posted 3 months ago #
  6. Snowy
    Member

  7. jules878
    Member

    Naughty cars going out on their own without their drivers!

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/ferry-road-in-edinburgh-blocked-after-two-car-crash-1-4633762

    Posted 2 months ago #
  8. Arellcat
    Moderator

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-42396788

    Notice the consistent phrasing that betrays unconscious bias in implying blame:

    Boy hit by car on pedestrian crossing
    A 13-year-old boy has been taken to hospital after being hit by a car
    The child was struck by a silver Citroen

    Note how it places the cause of the harm second: how useful the passive voice. Notice the different degree of culpability if one uses a more active construction:

    Car hits boy on pedestrian crossing
    A 13-year-old boy has been taken to hospital after he was hit by a car
    A silver Citroen struck the child

    But if we disentangle the car from the driver, and place blame where it might properly belong, notice how awkward and ambiguous the situation becomes:

    Car driver hits boy on pedestrian crossing
    A 13-year old boy has been taken to hospital after he was hit by a car driver
    The driver of a silver Citroen struck the child

    Posted 2 months ago #
  9. Stickman
    Member

    If you thought sentient vehicles were bad, how about sentient bridges?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-42435613

    Posted 2 months ago #
  10. Snowy
    Member

    @stickman The bit that actually made me laugh (in a dark way) was the advert on the side of the bus that says
    "4 headache relief on the move..."

    Posted 2 months ago #
  11. nedd1e_h
    Member

    "Road traffic collision reports are coming in fast this morning ... 25 in the last hour alone.
    "These sometimes cannot be avoided

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-42604070

    "These sometimes cannot be avoided." From the Police! - WTF!

    Posted 1 month ago #
  12. LaidBack
    Member

    Research just in... (copied from National)
    Nothing you don't already know via daily interactions!

    "Four in 10 drivers north of the Border admitted they love their current car more than their in-laws while more than six in 10 said they have fonder memories of the first car than their first love. Almost a quarter have more affection for their vehicle than their family pet.

    BMW motorists were given a special mention by the report having been named as the most obnoxious around.

    Range Rover and Audi TT drivers are also considered to be some of the rudest on the roads while Mini and Ford Fiesta owners are thought to be the kindest.

    White van men failed to live up to their reputation, with a respectable fifth-place finish on the nasty list.

    Although slightly below the British average, a typical Scot spends just under £17,000 over the course of their lifetime on “pimping and pampering” their vehicle. Custom car wraps, leather interior upgrades and alloy wheel rims have been identified as the most popular modifications.

    Despite saving an average of £2300 in comparison with drivers from other parts of Britain, Scottish drivers typically spend more of their lifetime caring for their cars – 56 days on average.

    Such is the affection for cars, 70 per cent of Scots believe theirs has a personality while more than half have named their vehicle. Petrol-head males seem to comply with the stereotype, favouring names such as Beast and Turbo while women tend to prefer Baby, Betty or Daisy.

    Around one-third of drivers feel their car’s name reflects the emotional characteristics of their metal box on wheels.

    The research accompanies the launch of online vlogger Yianni’s new television show on TV channel Dave, Yianni: Super Car Customiser."

    Posted 1 month ago #
  13. wishicouldgofaster
    Member

    The only car I named was my first one, often I used the loving term of come on ya heap of sh***

    I thankfully didn't keep it for long :)

    Posted 1 month ago #
  14. rider73
    Member

    ...we all name our bikes though eh - or is that just me?

    Posted 1 month ago #
  15. crowriver
    Member

    Lorry and three cars crash at roundabout in Fife

    An HGV lorry and three cars have crashed at a roundabout in Fife.
    The accident happened at the Chapel roundabout in Kirkcaldy, shortly before 08:45. Three people - described as walking wounded - have been taken to the Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy and one lane of the A92 is closed.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-42634745

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    How did those beastly vehicles get into this situation? Self-driving perhaps?

    Posted 1 month ago #
  16. crowriver
    Member

    It's all kicking off in Fife with villainous self-driving vehicles!

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    Woman seriously hurt in lorry crash with car in Fife

    A woman has been seriously injured following a crash between a car and a lorry in Fife. Emergency services were called to the A91 between Cupar and Dairsie at 06:30. A man was also injured in the crash. They were both taken to Ninewells Hospital in Dundee. The road was closed in both directions.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-42635365

    Posted 1 month ago #
  17. unhurt
    Member

    I had a hamster called Beast once. (Also a dwarf hamster called Small.)

    Posted 1 month ago #
  18. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Four women hurt after being hit by own car in Edinburgh.

    They must have upset it somehow.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  19. NiallA
    Member

    IWRATS, that’s an unusual case, as it sounds like there genuinely wasn’t a driver in the car! Ouch...

    Posted 1 month ago #
  20. crowriver
    Member

    Someone forgot to put the handbrake on? Or it wasn't locked on...

    The language used is odd though, like the car lashed out at them.

    "The women were in a Vauxhall Mokka"

    Reminds me of Ringo's famous quip when asked if he was a Mod or a Rocker.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  21. HankChief
    Member

    There was a locked car in the middle or Corstorphine Road this morning. And I mean in the middle.

    It had slipped it's handbrake from Murrayfield Road and ended up in Corstorphine Road.

    I stopped and chatted to a passerby who had phoned the police. The police's recommnedation was to leave it in situ as you wouldn't have any control if you pushed it anywhere.

    As we were chatted a sheepish women turned up with the key. It was her son's car and she had had an unexpected phone call from the police.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  22. crowriver
    Member

    Self-driving vehicles blinded by fog...

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    M8 multi-vehicle crash causes delays

    At least one person has been taken to hospital after a crash involving five vehicles on the M8 in Lanarkshire in heavy fog. Police said the accident happened at Junction 6, Newhouse, at about 06:20 and resulted in one man being taken by ambulance from the scene for treatment. The crash resulted in major delays eastbound to traffic on the route, which links Glasgow and Edinburgh. It took until after 08:00 to remove debris and fully reopen the route. That resulted in 40-minute delays for commuters with traffic queuing back to Shawhead Junction.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-42645999

    Posted 1 month ago #
  23. nedd1e_h
    Member

    Also "accident"

    It was no accident that drivers were travelling faster than they could see to stop.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  24. crowriver
    Member

    Yep. Polis should know better.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  25. edinburgh87
    Member

    Hope the ladies in Broomhouse are OK. Nearly earned my own car related Darwin award a while back by inspecting a scraping noise on my front bumper while parked facing down a steep hill. There but for the grace of the handbrake went I, so can imagine how it was done, didn't even occur to me till later on. I'll stick to the bike where possible...

    Posted 1 month ago #
  26. bax
    Member

    Girl, 15, dies after car hits Huddersfield bus stop

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-42645601

    Posted 1 month ago #
  27. crowriver
    Member

    Appalled, but sadly unsurprised, that there is no mention of the driver being arrested for crashing his car into a bus stop and killing someone. Ah, but it was the car's fault, the article makes that clear in its use of language.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  28. bax
    Member

    inanimate hits inanimate

    no human agency

    is the idea behind this somewhat along the lines of

    well we don't know what happened.. maybe the mechanics of the car failed.. so lets not EVER assume the driver of the vehicle might be culpable, unless they are aged under 20, in which case lets 'other' it

    well it just doesn't wash any more, and its time for change

    Posted 1 month ago #
  29. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Appeal after 4x4 vehicle almost strikes youth in Aberdeen

    Before, presumably, muttering 'Just bolt ya wee radge fore ah change ma mind'.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  30. crowriver
    Member

    This is the No.1 Most Watched video on Aunty Online just now. Bet the petrolheads are loving it. (Spoiler: No-one was injured in the making of this spectacle).

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    Truck ploughs through cycle race finish line in Australia

    The moment a truck driver in Australia ploughed through an inflatable finish line marker has been caught on camera. Australian Broadcasting Corporation reporter Sarah Hancock was covering the Santos Tour Down Under cycling race when the lorry carrying hay passed by.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-australia-42660071/truck-ploughs-through-cycle-race-finish-line-in-australia

    Posted 1 month ago #

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