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  1. crowriver
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    Coach crash near Edinburgh bus station

    A coach heading from Perth to Edinburgh had an unexpected early terminus when it smashed into a tram post on York Place. The driver was taken to hospital as a precaution after police responded to reports of the collision at 12.10. The Parks of Hamilton coach was turning into St Andrew Square Bus Station when it crashed into the tram line.

    Delays continue on the tram network due to the collision. However, despite the narrow section of road, traffic continued to flow. Council engineers inspected the damage and superficial repairs will be completed in due course.

    A police spokeswoman said: “We were called to York Place around 12.10 today following a report that a bus had collided with traffic lights at the junction.”

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/coach-crash-near-edinburgh-bus-station-1-4659952

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    Naughty coach victimising its completely innocent driver like that! But everything's okay, traffic continued to flow! Thank the Heavens and the traffic flow gods!

    See how bad this coach is, how did it manage that manoeuvre?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  2. crowriver
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    Another wicked self-driving car causing mayhem.

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    Four men injured after car mounts kerb in St Andrews

    Four men have been injured after being hit by a car which had mounted the kerb in St Andrews, Fife. Police and other emergency services were called to Church Street following the incident, which took place shortly before midday. The men have been taken to Ninewells Hospital in Dundee to receive treatment for leg and back injuries. The road has been closed following the crash, which involved a Volkswagen Golf car. Police have appealed for witnesses to come forward.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-42663762

    Posted 6 years ago #
  3. neddie
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    But who or what did the hurling? (They must be very strong whoever they are.)

    A speeding car in California was hurled into the upper floor of an office building

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42688747

    The accident happened in Santa Ana

    Also "accident". Was it an accident that the car was speeding, all by itself?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  4. urchaidh
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    Not sure if this (Specsavers driver crashes into Liverpool lamppost) is evidence of improvement in the way these things are reported, or just done in this case to get in a few more jokes.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  5. fimm
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    @urchaidh nope: "The white company car appeared to have veered off the road at the junction between Menlove Avenue and High Street before crashing into the lamppost" no driver involved. Car needs eye test.
    (There doesn't seem to have been any snow involved, from the photo.)

    Posted 6 years ago #
  6. crowriver
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    Pedestrian struck by car in hit-and-run in Kirkliston

    A 67-year-old man has been struck by a car in a hit-and-run incident on the outskirts of Edinburgh. The incident took place as the man crossed Main Street in Kirkliston, near the village's Scotmid store, at about 17:25 on Monday.

    The driver of the car involved, a small silver vehicle which may have been a Fiat Punto, did not stop. The pedestrian was taken to the Royal Infirmary of Edinburgh with a serious foot injury. Police have appealed for witnesses.

    PC Karen Russell, of Edinburgh's Road Policing Unit, said: "Our inquiries continue to establish the full circumstances surrounding this collision, which left a man with a serious injury. As part of this, we're urging anyone who may have witnessed the collision, who saw the car in the area or who has any information which may be able to help, to contact us as soon as possible."

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-42803231

    (Driver is mentioned as not stopping, but not as responsible for hitting pedestrian).

    Posted 6 years ago #
  7. crowriver
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    This is a terrible crime, but the article doesn't even mention that anyone was driving the car. Maybe the man arrested was an observer in a self-driving car test?

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    Three teenage boys killed by car near Hayes bus stop

    Three teenage boys were killed when they were hit by a car while waiting near a bus stop in west London on Friday evening. The three, who were all aged about 16, and were heading to a birthday party, died at the scene. The crash happened just after 20:30 GMT on Shepiston Lane, Hayes, close to a petrol station. A 28-year-old man, who was in an Audi involved in the crash, was arrested and taken to hospital for treatment.

    The boys' next of kin have been informed, the Met Police said. Other teenagers who were standing with the boys were uninjured. Friends who left flowers at the scene on Saturday said the teenagers were going to a 16th birthday party.

    Staff at the nearby Esso garage said a group had been fighting at the entrance to the forecourt just before the smash. It is believed the Audi mounted the pavement just outside the entrance and travelled a few yards down the road before hitting a lamp post.

    Tony Kitchin, 44, who works as security guard at a haulage firm nearby, said: "This road is busy 24/7. It's a speed trap. "I'm really surprised we haven't had more horrific accidents like this. No parent should have to deal with that. My heartfelt sympathies go out to the family and friends of the people who lost their lives last night."

    Det Sgt Jane Shaw, from the Met's serious collision investigation unit, said: "There are horrific circumstances that have resulted in three young people losing their lives."
    She appealed for anyone who saw what happened to contact the police.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-42843841

    Posted 6 years ago #
  8. crowriver
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    Closer to home, this one at least mentions a driver even though from the language used you'd be forgiven for thinking it was apparently caused by a car behaving wickedly. The driver stopped after the "accident" too, so that's alright then. Good to see the police using the correct description of "incident".

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    Girl, 11, serious after Tranent road accident

    An 11-year-old girl is in hospital in a serious condition after being struck by a car while walking near a supermarket in East Lothian. The accident happened at about 15:50 on Thursday on Haddington Road in Tranent near an Aldi store. It involved a BMW 120 which was heading east.

    Police said the girl suffered a number of injuries and had been taken to the Royal Hospital for Sick Children in Edinburgh for treatment. They are trying to establish the "full circumstances" of the accident. Sgt Neil Inglis said: "The driver stopped as soon as the incident occurred and is continuing to assist with our investigation, but we are also keen to hear from other members of the public who witnessed what happened. If you were on Haddington Road on Thursday afternoon and believe you have information relevant to this inquiry then please contact police immediately."

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-42831829

    Posted 6 years ago #
  9. crowriver
    Member

    Malicious self-driving cars preying on pedestrians, again.

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    Man 'deliberately pursued and struck' by car in Paisley

    Police believe a man struck by a car in Paisley may have been hit deliberately. A 27-year-old man was walking in Oliphant Crescent on Friday 26 January at 18:05 when a dark coloured vehicle struck him. He was treated for injuries at the Royal Alexandra Hospital and released.

    Detectives believe the man may have been followed and deliberately struck by the car and are appealing for anyone who saw the incident, or a car driving erratically, to come forward.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-42852357

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    Posted 6 years ago #
  10. chdot
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  11. Stickman
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  13. wangi
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    https://twitter.com/ScotRail/status/960874083801010176
    "NEW: Due to a road vehicle colliding with a bridge between #Burntisland & Aberdour, services between Edinburgh - Glenrothes via Kirkcaldy & Inverness - Edinburgh will be delayed or revised."

    Posted 6 years ago #
  14. chdot
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  15. dougal
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-43032442

    Struck by car at roundabout.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  16. I were right about that saddle
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    Mysterious.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  17. crowriver
    Member

    Seems snow has strange powers to force motor vehicles to collide with each other.

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    @TheScotsman
    Weather has caused more than 8,000 crashes in three days, AA says
    https://trib.al/BQswgaR

    Posted 6 years ago #
  18. LaidBack
    Member

    How will self-driving vehicles cope with snow?
    The video of the LRT bus being skillfully driven around a skidding car made me think.
    Or would a self driving vehicle just refuse to work if conditions had too many 'variables'?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  19. chdot
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    A spokeswoman for Police Scotland said: “We received a call to a one-vehicle RTC when it hit a wall.

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/road-closed-after-car-crashes-into-wall-outside-edinburgh-pub-1-4701570

    Posted 6 years ago #
  20. Snowy
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    @Laidback Really interesting area, and your conclusion is correct, if faced with a situation they can't process, self-driving vehicles stop and go into safe mode / ask the human driver to take over. They will become increasingly capable, but there will always be a point.

    Driving on ice and snow brings into play a lot of extra judgement that we don't really 'think' about, at least until it goes pear shaped.

    Problem is, there's a wider consequence of the transitional state until we have fully autonomous vehicles...we are assuming that the nominated human driver 'in charge' actually has the driving skill and experience to take over. Unfortunately, there will be an ever increasing proportion of the population who will have passed a driving test, bought a self-driving car, and so never gained any driving experience themselves, so are next to useless at it.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  21. crowriver
    Member

    "Unfortunately, there will be an ever increasing proportion of the population who will have passed a driving test, bought a self-driving car, and so never gained any driving experience themselves, so are next to useless at it."

    Er.....I think we're already at that stage? Except for the "self-driving car" bit.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  22. Snowy
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    It's a fair comment :-)

    Posted 6 years ago #
  23. chdot
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  26. neddie
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    A wobbly lorry was allowed out on the A76:

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-43751836

    Posted 6 years ago #
  27. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    House not wearing hi-viz. Inevitable consequence.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  28. Snowy
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  29. crowriver
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    Despicable cars, killing OAPs. At least the word "driver" is mentioned, but no trace of their own culpability can be detected in this report.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-44181785

    Posted 6 years ago #
  30. Ed1
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