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  • Started 11 years ago by kaputnik
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  1. The Boy
    Member

    @ PS

    My other half was in Starbucks as the driver of the car that was nearly hit was giving her statement to polis, according to which she had to floor it to avoid lorry which was coming down from Calton Hill.

    I imagine the eyewitness wasn't actually an eyewitness but someone who came along after, or possibly wasn't actually real and was in fact simply stating what the chip wrapper hack thought they saw in the aftermath.

    (obvious disclaimers and caveats all apply on all of the above.)

    Posted 8 years ago #
  2. chdot
    Admin

    So lorry decided its brakes were getting tired?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  3. kaputnik
    Moderator

    So...

    Lorry coming down Calton Hill too fast / without care and attention, car coming up. Vehicles take avoiding action. Lorry skids on wet cobbles, back end (heavy with beer barrels) slides around as driver hits the brakes on the steep downhill, lorry now travelling backwards and crashes through fence and rolls back onto Calton Road until hitting the retaining wall for Leith Street?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  4. chdot
    Admin

    Lorry reversing down? or parked??

    Posted 8 years ago #
  5. PS
    Member

    Perhaps lorry was going up Calton Hill and lost power/grip and slid back over the wall. Lady in black car coming up Calton Road sees the lorry sliding through the railings and has to floor it up to Leith Street to avoid getting crushed?

    I'm not sure I've ever seen any vehicle going down Calton Hill. TBH, I think I've always assumed it was one-way up the way.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  6. kaputnik
    Moderator

    @PS I had a streetview check and there's nothing to suggest it's one way

    Posted 8 years ago #
  7. PS
    Member

    Yeah, I did the same. I'm not sure I'd have cycled up it as often as I have done had I known to expect the odd beer lorry coming down it (either going forwards or in reverse)...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  8. dougal
    Member

    I assumed from initial photos/reports that it was going uphill but slid on the wet cobbles and never regained traction.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  9. urchaidh
    Member

    I guess this belongs here - report from the US that a car reported its own driver after hit and run accident.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  10. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Car assaults a pedestrian apparently.

    No mention at all that a human being might have been in nominal control.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  11. chdot
    Admin

  12. dougal
    Member

    Commenters are blaming the mother or slagging off her son's name. Lovely.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  13. Stickman
    Member

    http://m.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/m8-crash-man-in-hospital-after-bmw-flips-1-3971798

    I'm sure we've all had issues with flipping BMWs.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  14. chrisfl
    Member

    A Florida woman drove away after an accident, but her car automatically reported it anyway. She was arrested.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  15. fimm
    Member

    Tree leaps out in front of car:

    "Police are appealing for witnesses to a crash that left one woman seriously injured after her car left the road. The 29-year-old was driving on the A85 near Tyndrum when the crash happened... Her Peugeot 206 hit a tree and the woman received head injuries..."

    Posted 8 years ago #
  16. deckard112
    Member

    @stickman The BMW incident was my best mate. He was driving to work, remembers hitting standing water and hitting banking. Thankfully minor injuries but still in hospital.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  17. neddie
    Member

    Cars can do magic tricks now, you know...

    Now you see it, now you don't...

    http://www.centralfifetimes.com/news/14117364.Fatality_may_not_be_far_away_says_villager_after_car_appears_in_garden/?ref=ar

    Posted 8 years ago #
  18. dougal
    Member

    Was just discussing "designing for failure" re roads the other day. Clearly posting reduced speed limits does sweet FA to curtail bad driving and they need to take a good look at making it harder to drive at unsafe speeds in the first place. It really shouldn't be possible for multiple drivers on separate occasions to drive into someone's garden...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  19. Snowy
    Member

    Presumably self-driving cars will not allow themselves to speed. Can't wait.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  20. Snowy
    Member

    Car left dangling off verge after careering through railings

    Not even a sniff of a suggestion that someone might have been driving.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  21. Charlethepar
    Member

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/lamborghini-crashes-near-wallyford-1-4018333

    Three bad cars.

    'A grey-coloured Lamborghini Gallardo, a maroon coloured Ford Focus and a green Ford Fiesta were all involved in the collision.

    Pc Julie Bishop who is based in Dalkeith said: “Our inquiries into this matter are ongoing and I would be interested to hear from anyone who saw these vehicles prior to the collision to contact police."'

    Posted 8 years ago #
  22. Stickman
    Member

    New Twitter account: @absentdriver

    Posted 8 years ago #
  23. neddie
    Member

    Cars now dancing to the tune of hail storms:

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-35917916

    Posted 8 years ago #
  24. Got to love that. Officially sanctioned by the police....

    "The crashes occurred as a result of freak hail showers in various locations throughout the region making driving conditions hazardous" said the police spokesman.

    Not at all caused by people driving into the storms then not adjusting their driving accordingly. Not one of the 40 (FORTY?!?!) crashes were caused by anything other than the hailstorm directly.

    This would be why, a number of times, when I've driven into a really heavy shower of rain, or hail, that I've found a safe place to pull over and stop as soon as possible. Because you can't trust people to drive correctly in those circumstances.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  25. neddie
    Member

    Sadly, WC, you aren't even safe in a layby:

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-35916754

    Only "mid-range" careless driving. Only community service.

    Ooops, nevermind. Slap on the wrist. Be more careful next time...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  26. Oh I've gone up side streets, or into laybys that have a good twenty yard grass verge separation. The couple of times I've had to stop in a layby alongside the A90 they've felt completely exposed and unsafe. Horrible places to be.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  27. fimm
    Member

    Not to mention the boulder that has been there for 11,000 years but someone wants it moved because they managed to drive their car into it:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-35918470

    (I've filed your tip about pulling well over in hail/heavy rain away for future use, W.C.. Would you get off a motorway at the next exit, rather than going on the hard shoulder, in such circumstances?)

    Posted 8 years ago #
  28. cb
    Member

    Looking at Streetview I see that the embedded boulder (or large stone really) at the corner of Craigs Road and Meadowfield Road (near the old council tip) has been removed and the road resurfaced.

    I knew someone who drove into that once.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  29. @fimm

    Depends on the severity of the storm. If it really was visibility down to virtually nowt, then I'd risk the hard shoulder. But otherwise it would be coming off at the next exit and getting well away from the high speed traffic.

    Had it happen driving in France once - every driver was doing the same thing. For a 5 minute, intensely heavy spell of hail, not a single car was moving on the road alongside.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  30. acsimpson
    Member

    @fimm, I guess they didn't design situational awareness into the rock when they put it there all those millennia ago.

    Posted 8 years ago #

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