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Cycling Scotland Conference 2013

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  1. gembo
    Member

    Lonely or cycling against the flow? Unlike in many other aspects of life, if he went east west and 7000 were going west east, I think he would spot a mistake in his policy and change direction?

    Posted 11 years ago #
  2. wingpig
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    Wonder if he'll come out of it saying "at no point did I feel at risk on the roads or threatened by motor traffic" or similar, P4S not being representative of daily transportation.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  3. chdot
    Admin

    I was going to say 'I presume it will end in Glasgow for 2014 because of CG'.

    But -

    http://www.pedalforscotland.org/register.aspx

    Posted 11 years ago #
  4. SRD
    Moderator

    If commuting is his target then why is he raking up sport cycling?

    Posted 11 years ago #
  5. fimm
    Member

    @SRD Do you mean "taking up sport cycling"? Pedal for Scotland isn't sport cycling...

    Posted 11 years ago #
  6. PS
    Member

    Once upon a time there was a notion that restricting 'demand' for travel was a good idea.

    This is still the case for rail (peak time pricing).

    Posted 11 years ago #
  7. SRD
    Moderator

    Re yes. Taking up.

    If it's not sport cycling then it's at least leisure cycling.

    And aimed ( at least in part) at sport cyclists.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  8. chdot
    Admin

    "And aimed ( at least in part) at sport cyclists"

    Some of whom cycle commute too.

    Whether PfS is an irrelevance, distraction, good idea or gateway drug can be debated (without much chance of a resolution).

    KB cycling more ought to be a good thing.

    'We' want more people cycling more - whenever, wherever, whyever - but the Transport Minister should be paying more attention to the cycling as transport bit.

    Cycling between two central belt cities once a year doesn't really count (especially if there and back aren't cycled!!)

    Posted 11 years ago #
  9. chdot
    Admin

    "
    @magnatom: The Cycling Scotland Conference: Thoughts http://t.co/bdHVJJ9JIZ Just a tad underwhelmed.

    "

    Posted 11 years ago #
  10. chdot
    Admin

    Long post - worth reading even though it doesn't mention Edinburgh!

    "
    KB: .....yes, I think we can reach the target by 2020.

    It was later at coffee break, after a few people commenting to me that Keith really reacted in a very 'strange way' to my question, almost as if he was annoyed.....I headed off to the loo. It was on this journey that someone patted me on the back smiling...

    Did you hear what he said there?

    I hadn't. I hadn't noticed that he had accidental mentioned the word target, instead of vision or ambition. It seems that even Keith is getting confused....

    ...

    Andrew Gilligan gave an excellent talk, but as he pointed out, it was very easy for him to do that, considering he had a budget of nearly £1bn to spend on cycling in London! (That would keep us going for 10 years!) Most importantly though he mentioned people. He mentioned that cycle infrastructure was not for cyclists, it was for everyone.

    Absolutely!

    London has got it and I can see a bright future for cycling in London. Yes, Andrew did mention that it wouldn't be perfect and that some expectations wouldn't be met....it wouldn't be Amsterdam.... However, they are a million miles and nearly a billion pounds away from the situation in Scotland. I did love this comment he made:

    Doing something badly is not an option.

    Alison Johnstone then gave a speech which Jon Snow described as 'the most inspiring speech he had heard from a politician....EVER!' It was an excellent speech. There can be no doubt, Alison gets it. Yes, Alison is a green MSP, she is bound to be pro-active travel. However, it goes beyond that. Alison really does gets it. She gets that cycling isn't just an environmental issue, she knows that it answers big issues in health and wealth as well. We need more politicians like Alison in all of the political parties.

    ...

    Cycle infrastructure in Glasgow is already very strong....

    ...

    Overall, I left the day feeling, not dejected, the fact that so many were there was good in itself, but I certainly didn't feel inspired.

    The mountain that we have to climb is still there. Someone has built a base camp, which is nice, but otherwise the peak looks as far as always. Rest assure though, this certainly doesn't mean we should pack up and go home. Far from it. In fact we have to shout louder and and we need more people shouting.

    Perhaps, I need to annoy Keith Brown just a little bit more....

    "

    And the rest -

    http://www.magnatom.net/2013/11/cycling-scotland-conference-thoughts.html

    Posted 11 years ago #

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