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Scotland Census data

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  • Started 11 years ago by LaidBack
  • Latest reply from Instography

  1. LaidBack
    Member

    Car or van availability - City of Edinburgh

    Households - 223k
    Households with no car or van - 89k
    Households with 1 car or van - 95.2k
    Households with 2 cars or vans - 32.6k
    Households with 3 cars or vans - 4.9k
    Households with 4 cars or vans - 1.3k

    Car and van total for City of Edinburgh - 180.9k

    Car and van availability - National Records of Scotland 2011

    Posted 11 years ago #
  2. SRD
    Moderator

    Even more interesting - as Ally Tibbett just pointed out to me on twitter Edinburgh's the "only Scottish LA area where household access to car or van has gone down between 2001 - 2011 "

    Posted 11 years ago #
  3. crowriver
    Member

    So, about 40% without a motor vehicle. That's a lot of people!

    Posted 11 years ago #
  4. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Worth pointing out it's "access to" a car or van, not ownership of. So you can be down under "1 car or van" but not own it, but perhaps regularly use a family member's / partner's / work's car.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  5. Or member of the city car club...

    Posted 11 years ago #
  6. fimm
    Member

    I have some recollection that City Car Club didn't count - i.e. boyfriend & I count as "no car" even though we're CCC members and perfectly (financially) capable of hiring a car for a week to go on holiday... does the link tell you exactly what the question was?

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  7. sallyhinch
    Member

    Looks like the question was about 'number of cars or vans in the household'.

    Any idea why Scotland is so slow releasing the census data? The figures for commuting to work have been out for England and Wales (and I think Northern Ireland) for ages, but still not due till November here

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  8. Morningsider
    Member

    fimm - The question was:

    In total, how many car(s) or van(s) are owned, or availble for use, by members of this household? Include any company car(s) or van(s) if available for private use.

    Interesting to note that 50.8% of households in Glasgow (Scotland's largest local authority) had no access to a car in 2011.

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  9. fimm
    Member

    Ah, but what was the definition of "available for use"? My recollection is that it exculded things like city car clubs.

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  10. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Any idea why Scotland is so slow releasing the census data?

    Relative efficiency (or otherwise) and/or priorities of different national statistics bodies.

    Scotland doesn't have a great record on open government data compared to England and Wales.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  11. Instography
    Member

    The exact question was, "In total, how many cars or vans are owned, or are available for use, by members of this household?

    Include any company car(s) or van(s) available
    for private use."

    Don't see any explanatory notes defining "available for use" but the implication is that they are available for the exclusive use (implied by "owned" and "private use") of the household rather than generally available for hire by the household. That would include many cars.

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  12. kaputnik
    Moderator

    In which case I am a 3 car household, as I could easily phone up my parents, sister or brother-in-law and ask them to drive me somewhere.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  13. Kenny
    Member

    Any idea why Scotland is so slow releasing the census data

    According to a colleague who used to work there, it appears to mainly be inefficiencies, to such an extent it makes other public bodies such as CEC look positively sprightly.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  14. gembo
    Member

    Twice as many people in Scotland speak polish as Speak gaelic

    Posted 11 years ago #
  15. crowriver
    Member

    Hmm. I wonder how 'reliable' these figures are. Spot the 'deliberate' mistakes in this table: http://www.scotlandscensus.gov.uk/documents/censusresults/release2a/rel2asbtable3.pdf

    (Hint: Canada and Australia comparison between 2001 and 2011: number of increase - WTF?)

    Posted 11 years ago #
  16. Kenny
    Member

    I think that's just rounding, but I agree at first glance it's confusing.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  17. Instography
    Member

    It's odd practice to have the numbers rounded to the nearest thousands (although weird to then show the "difference" in the unrounded actuals rounded to the nearest thousand) but then to show the percentages to 1 decimal.

    Posted 11 years ago #

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