That boy is getting some flack for falling off his bike at the Haymarket station :/
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CYCLIST DOWN - Haymarket
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Posted 10 years ago #
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The people who are giving flak really need to try riding it themselves before commenting.
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No no no. You have it all wrong. All you need to do when approaching the tracks at 25mph is simply slow to a crawl, then cross at 90* so that you move across the entire width of the lane, then speed up again.
Now, granted, this might completely disrupt the flow of traffic, but I'm sure the types sniping about the people falling off are of course not the same people liable to blow a gasket the moment one of us two wheeled hooligans holds them up by a microsecond.
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No no no, allebong - you have it all wrong!
There's no need for the cyclist to cross the tram lines at all, and it was all staged anyway as cyclists always use the pavement so be on the road means its fake....
;-)
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lol @threefromleith.........
People know the tram lines are there, I really cannot understand why people just do not lift the handlebars up a little so that the wheels lifts over the tram lines and the rear will follow naturally.
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Oh God - 124 comments!
I'm not going to bother....
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124 comments!
100 of them probably from the same 10 sockpuppet trolls that lurk within the E-chipwrapper.
Posted 10 years ago # -
plus another 19 comments over at The Scotsman version of the article...
http://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/cyclists-condemn-dangerous-edinburgh-tram-lines-1-3147144
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An anonymous opinion is a joke. It is utterly meaningless.
Tom Orr
MusselburghPosted 10 years ago # -
That article has a link to an old one at the bottom -
http://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/edinburgh-faces-1m-tram-payout-to-injured-cyclists-1-2650601
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Even worse on the facebook comments
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I've given up what motivates sad individuals such as "Irritatingly Intelligent Chauvinist" {Well, 2 out of 3 ain't bad}, Alternative (Methedone-fuelled) Airhead {or whatever his name is} and their peers to seemingly spend their entire day, every day, trotting out the same tired anti-cyclist/pro-motorist, council-bashing drivel on a newspaper's comments section.
If they'd turn their efforts into whatever job they have, they might do it better!
The logic of some of the comments defies belief:
"No cycle helmet and dark clothing, an accident waiting to happen.First cyclist in the clip is wearing bright clothing and helmet and also manages to negotiate the tram lines successfully. Cant help feeling the clip is a set up."
As the reply to that says, where is the correlation between helmet/hi-viz and the incident? I'm a firm believer in helmet use (there, I've said it!) and hi-viz (when it will actually be of benefit) but neither would have had any part in preventing what happened. Laughable.
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@chdot............. that could be deemed as fun as long as you steer into it???? :)
Posted 10 years ago # -
I note there is a cycle lane and taxi lane to the left that could be used to cross the lines at a more obtuse angle. However I see the presence of a keep right arrow on the island between the main carriageway and the cycle lane which technically means you risk a £60 fixed penalty if you disobey it.
Stunning :)Posted 10 years ago # -
I've noticed that the chipwrapper has started automatically playing audio & video adverts when opening their pages.
It's the biggest faux-pas in web design to automatically play audio on loading a page.
Shows how desperate the Hootsman/Chipwrapper are getting. Last journo turn out the lights please...
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Go to the Haymarket Thread to see this story has made it to Road.cc
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Saw this on road.cc last night.
Unfortunately looks like some of the EEN commenters have turned up there as well:"...no helmet...no high-vis...looks staged....rubbish cycling....just hop over the tracks...."
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Unfortunately looks like some of the EEN commenters have turned up there as well:
Fortunately the good posters of Road.CC seem to have largely slapped down the idiots who have tried a spot of victim blaming for cyclists "choosing" to cycle across wet rails at a shallow angle and entirely miss that this is the traffic line.
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Plenty commenters though (on Roaad.cc) saying that hopping your front wheel, or crossing at a less acute angle, is basic bike handling that everyone should know.
These type of comments annoy me for a couple of reasons. Firstly, everyone has to start somewhere, you cannot assume that everyone who jumps on a bike is immediately aware of exactly how they should ride around every hazard. Some are hazards that we can do nothing about, but this leads onto the second point...
The road design here basically forces a shallow angle on riders crossing the tram lines. They creep across and across and acroos, and at some point you have to make a decision to cross. Sometimes in the dark adn the wet with traffic around you. Personally I'd never comment on what someone should or shouldn't do on a particular bit of road unless I knew it - commenting from the comfort of the south of England having never set foot north of the border, let alone ridden this piece of nonsense, is just someone with a superiority complex feeding their own ego.
And the people on there commenting that he wasn't ewaring hi-viz or a helmet... How would either have stopped him falling on tramlines?
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i took another look at roadcc comments too ad like wc not impressed.
'hop'? really? not something i can do, nor s'thing i want to try on a busy road with uneven surface.
just makes me think they're all bullies. or idiots. or both.
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"just makes me think they're all bullies. or idiots. or both"
Or, much as it pains me to say it, blokes topping up their testosterone by explaining loudly just how they are better than everyone else. Then again, it must be pretty tiring being perfect all the time.
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And they can try hopping on my Brompton, which is an older model which doesn't allow the hinge at the back to be locked out...
(yes, I know someone linked to an upgrade kit on here the other day. Currently my bike cannot be hopped. And to be quite honest, why should I have to learn to hop my bike? And it is one thing for a man to hop a lightweight road bike to which his feet are attached, and another for a woman on a heavy-laden town bike. Are they suggesting that SRD hops her tandem?)
<rant mode off> and I haven't even been to the road.cc thread!
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If you do rely on hopping, sometimes you are going to get it wrong. For me hopping is only an emergency get-out (and I am not great at it).
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Hopping is awfully close to hopeing for my liking, easy enough on the mtb but not a way to get around on the racer.
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Pretty much agree with all the above comments on the Road CC "expert" commentators (probably the same sort that look at the transmission on my Surly with horror and spend ages explaining in great detail how I can clean it to factory new in "only an hour or two" lol)
That said, if they can bunny hop one of these: http://www.practicalcycles.com/userimages/Yuba-Mundo-Cargo-Bike%281189623%29.htm
over the trambles lines, loaded, in the rain, during rush hour, then I'll buy the beers!Posted 10 years ago # -
Hoiking the front wheel up is not a bunny-hop. That's when you get both wheels off the ground and that's what would be needed to avoid slipping on these tracks as the video shows. It's a mountain biking skill.
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I agree - I can do that but I sure as hell can't bunny hop. I'd be worried about my back wheel sliding as in the video by chdot of the almost spill.
I think we need a video of Danny MacAskill doing this section and put that on the EEN as an instructional video for the recommended way for everyday cyclists to get around this section of road.
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A Danny MacAskill instructional video would be very good!
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