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CYCLIST DOWN - Haymarket

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  • Started 11 years ago by guydingle
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  1. chdot
    Admin

    He's already done it in the centre of Edinburgh -

    http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8161#post-81169

    Posted 11 years ago #
  2. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Don't forget that Road.cc is well populated by types whose main experience of cycling is in clubland and raceland and therefore assume everyone cycling to work/shops/school/swimmingpool/fullyloaded should be able to do emergency bunny hops to negotiate any obstructions. Their point of view on this might not be entirely objective.

    In fact until anyone has tried to ride that route in traffic, the dark, and the wet, their tuppence is worth more like a thruppeny.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  3. chdot
    Admin

  4. FAKE!!!!

    Oh, wait, not on YouTube or the EEN comments...

    Posted 11 years ago #
  5. Stickman
    Member

    It's all a conspiracy apparently - cyclists are out to get injured in order to claim compensation from the council.

    .... It's all a bit David Icke: it'll be cycling lizards next

    Posted 11 years ago #
  6. chdot
    Admin

    Posted 11 years ago #
  7. Stickman
    Member

    I salute your GoogleFu!

    Posted 11 years ago #
  8. Morningsider
    Member

    Good to see Cllr Hinds has this sorted:

    “We’re looking at ways to improve the situation as it’s important that cyclists have access to a safe line through the area. In the meantime, we’d encourage cyclists to use the cycle lane if possible and, if it’s blocked, proceed at a slower pace.”

    See - if those cyclists had just slowed down a bit, none of this would have happened. If cars were skidding off the road at Haymarket it would be closed until a safe solution to the problem had been found. Drivers would not be encouraged to slow down (or bunnyhop thier cars over the tram lines).

    Posted 11 years ago #
  9. chdot
    Admin

    "I salute your GoogleFu!"

    Thanks I knew what/where I was looking for -

    http://www.sculpture.org.uk/sculpture/472/fish-on-a-bicycle

    Looks more like a lizard than a fish!

    Posted 11 years ago #
  10. tammytroot
    Member

    Mmm, So slowing down (which won't make other road users even more impatient at all, will magically cure the angle that the road layout forces cyclists to take crossing the rails?

    Posted 11 years ago #
  11. kaputnik
    Moderator

    we’d encourage cyclists to use the cycle lane

    People are falling BEFORE they get anywhere near the jughandle. How is this going to help? There is no cycle lane into the jughandle. Between the ASL at bottom of Morrison Street and the Jughandle you are on your own to try and pick a safe line. Clearly she hasn't even bothered to look at Chdots videos or the layout here..

    Posted 11 years ago #
  12. "All about angles of attack, this muppet gives it about 5%. You need to hit it at almost a 90% angle!

    Just sliding into the groove will obviously result in a crash. I navigate the tracks daily and have only crashed once. Which was entirely my fault."

    Riiiiiiight. I'd like to see this cyclist try to get through these tracks at a 90% (?) angle.....

    Posted 11 years ago #
  13. "This is stupid. Cyclists are not being "forced" to do anything. As long as there are no parked vehicles at the stretch of road concerned, there is no need for cylclists to take on the rails at a dangerous angle at any point. If there are parked taxis, why not just dismount and walk along the pavement for a few yards? How hard can it be?!!"

    Argh, more comments from people who haven't actually seen the bit of road!!!

    Posted 11 years ago #
  14. Baldcyclist
    Member

    I navigate the tracks daily and have only crashed once.

    Ay least he admits to being a muppet too.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  15. Morningsider
    Member

    WC - stop reading the comments! They are simply Sirens trying to ground unwary humans on the rocks of stupidity.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  16. Stickman
    Member

    "what is needed is for the cyclists to pay attention to the road ahead, taking account of the tram lines, and cycle at an appropriate speed and in the correct position on the carriageway so as not to put themselves at risk."

    Absolutely, good advice which I can't disagree with.

    Unfortunately there is *no* safe position on the carriageway to avoid the tramlines, no matter the speed.

    (And also, change the reference from cyclist to drivers and it's still good advice)

    Posted 11 years ago #
  17. kaputnik
    Moderator

    WC - stop reading the comments!

    No, read them if you wish - although I can't say it will do well for your mental or coronary wellbeing!

    Just puhlease, for the sake of our colelctive sanity, don't copy/paste them in here!

    I know they're awful and a load of cobblers, which is precisely why I refuse to read a single line below the foot of any EEN story.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  18. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Someone want to point me to the wherever it is written down that if I cross the tram tracks at 10mph the chance of falling or sliding out are in anyway reduced from the same maneouvre at 15mph or 20mph?

    Posted 11 years ago #
  19. stiltskin
    Member

    & not forgetting that it is easier to bunny hop while carrying a bit of speed.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  20. sg37409
    Member

    Are spokes or anyone campaigning for a "dead slow" speed limit for motor vehicles around the tracks ? 15 mph ?

    The tracks will stay as they are. Options to improve our lot are limited and include banning cyclists from the vicinity. I'd rather they got in quick with some postive options before some bright spark comes up with the solution

    Posted 11 years ago #

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