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  1. LaidBack
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    20150615_111821 by LaidBackBikes, on Flickr

    Posted 8 years ago #
  2. Beano
    Member

    Does anyone know what the plans are for cyclists when the new Queensferry crossing opens? I've heard the old (current) bridge is to be kept as a bus route but wondered if the cyclist will be punted alongside the bus (i.e. a lane each) or if things stay 'as is' with the cyclist and the ped sharing the space.

    On one hand it does get a little crowded sometimes in the summer evenings and at weekends but I imagine the 'road' part of the bridge isn't too suited for the cyclist (i.e. bumpy surface / risk of falling off the bridge between the road and the walkway.

    Just wondered if there was anything out there on the WWW. cheers.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  3. paddyirish
    Member

    My understanding is that we keep the status quo and travel on the current cycle path. There is no provision for cycling on the new bridge and the worry is that if the currect bridge were to close, we'd have a long way via Kincardine :-(

    Posted 8 years ago #
  4. One thing I noticed going over the bridge on Monday was a brand new cycle path that 'looked' like it was leading up to the new bridge (on the north side), but I thought the same thing, that there was to be no cycling provision (which is why I noticed it I think).

    Posted 8 years ago #
  5. minus six
    Member

    wondered if the cyclist will be punted alongside the bus (i.e. a lane each) or if things stay 'as is' with the cyclist and the ped sharing the space.

    Cycling infrastructure could certainly do with improvement around the bridge, however I expect arrangements for cycling will stay exactly as they are, on the basis that the authorities will require the opportunity to re-open the old bridge to 'regular' traffic temporarily, at the drop of a hat

    eg. accidents, tailbacks, etc. either on the A90 or the new bridge itself

    Posted 8 years ago #
  6. paddyirish
    Member

    Woohoo- that missing drain cover between ferrytoll and the layby heading up to the bridge has been replaced.

    We'll all miss that traffic cone...

    How long did it take? Is that a record for a basic repair?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  7. minus six
    Member

    Whats getting my goat round here is the lovers padlock installation in the middle of the bridge

    An 'idea' misappropriated from various bridges around Berlin and Paris, where such chaotic gestures represent the aspirations and fervent spirit of genuine amour fou

    FETAs bland version is corporate, subscribed to at cost, identical padlocks all in neat regimented rows, and most annoyingly has encouraged photo opportunity tourism where the only place to take your photo of the rows of padlocks is from slap bang in the middle of the cycle lane

    - Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells

    Posted 8 years ago #
  8. biggles1982
    Member

    I do miss that cone.

    I was hoping that once the new bridge opens there's an opportunity to widen the cycle path on the north side of the bridge as there should be no need for the bus lane anymore. This would have the added advantage of moving the bus shelter which can bring you into conflict with cyclists coming the other way, as I have previously, which led to a rather expensive wheel and helmet replacement and strained ligaments in my shoulder.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  9. minus six
    Member

    should be no need for the bus lane anymore

    Buses will continue to use FRB as far as I'm aware, and this stop is convenient for North Queensferry residents.

    What requires changing is the entire lorry lay-by section.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  10. minus six
    Member

    Ah right, I see what you're getting at biggles.

    Buses using the main lanes, not the existing bus lane

    hence build out of cycle track

    Great idea but Transport Scotland won't be keen on it

    Need a pressure group to engage with them

    Posted 8 years ago #
  11. paddyirish
    Member

    aye, but there is no need for a third bus lane with the reduced traffic. Make the pavement wider all the way up and shift the bus stop out where the bus lane now is. We then have a nice wide cycle lane and no blind spot. For all the traffic there will be, a bus stopping on the inside lane shouldn't be a problem.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  12. paddyirish
    Member

    @bax- yep now we're talking about the same thing.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  13. Beano
    Member

    haha I was going to post about the cone today too (this is my first chance). I actually shouted a big 'yipee' as I passed in disbelief. I think @baldcyclist deserves considerable mention for his tireless campaigning on getting this fixed. I wonder what prompted it? I do notice they have also re-done the bus lane so maybe the repair got lumped in with that work.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  14. Beano
    Member

    and...agree about the widening North of FRB. it is a little tight along to Ferrytoll and, despite ringing my bell furiously, many peds (and cyclists) can't hear you due to the traffic noise.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  15. acsimpson
    Member

    I didn't notice the missing traffic cone this morning (It was always more noticeable southbound) but will have a little rejoice on the way home. I've only been riding the route for 18 months and don't remember it not being there.

    curiously they seem to have resurfaced the southbound carriageway in two sections with a gap of a few metres between the sections.

    Maybe they'll fix the potholes on the roundabout next.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  16. biggles1982
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    fixing the potholes on the roundabout next would be great.

    other advantage of widening the path would be that you don't have busses flying past you about a metre away.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  17. minus six
    Member

    No mention of it on twitter, but FRB east path is shut for an extended period this afternoon, gates down etc, due to an incident with a pedestrian, cops in attendance.

    West side path wasn't offically open yet when I was headed back over to the kingdom at 2pm, but control room kindly gave me the nod to do the limbo dance and continue

    Posted 8 years ago #
  18. chdot
    Admin

    (Not near Edinburgh)

    "

    Scotsman (@TheScotsman)
    07/08/2015 09:08
    Five motorists caught doing 100mph on A90 as police get tough on speeding: http://bit.ly/1IMunNp

    http://pic.twitter.com/kxl3tusyGf

    "

    Posted 8 years ago #
  19. biggles1982
    Member

    Roundabout at ferrytoll resurfaced overnight. no more potholes.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  20. acsimpson
    Member

    That's nice.

    I hope you're talking about the main one rather than the park and ride one. It was getting beyond a joke and making it tricky to keep an eye on traffic.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  21. minus six
    Member

    Riding the potholed gauntlet round the bend, while trying to get over into the priority bus lane, which has no stop / yield markings to let you in anyway.

    It's almost as if Transport Scotland has zero operational understanding of vulnerable road users or their requirements.

    But that can't be right, can it?

    http://www.transportscotland.gov.uk/road

    hmmm.....

    Posted 8 years ago #
  22. Beano
    Member

    This might be in the wrong thread (couldn't find a Forth Road Bridge one).

    Has anyone got any opinion on the new white painted line on the bridge? I had quite a big slide on it today as I crossed it (reminded me of the F1 rules...watch the white line!!!) but seriously I felt it was a bit slick and could have done with being roughed up a bit. Maybe I am just being a bit dramatic but I don't fancy coming off on the bridge

    Posted 7 years ago #
  23. chdot
    Admin

    "Maybe I am just being a bit dramatic"

    Yes - but only because you skidded!

    Doesn't sound good.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  24. Tulyar
    Member

    Check the detail -

    1) width of white line - should be no more than 10cm - excessive areas of thermoplastic road paint are known to be a key hazard

    2) thickness of line the MAXIMUM height of a thermoplastic line above the road surface is 3mm (about the thickness of a £1 coin) use straight edge and coin to take photo or a profile gauge to transfer profile to a sheet of card (or for the very well equipped a laser profile recorder/laser level)

    3) TSRGD Chapter 5 notes that thermoplastic road markings should incorporate friction enhancing material (grit) its should not be used in virgin form, especially with cycle traffic.

    Thermoplastic markings can include profiles (rumble strip lines) and the rumble ridges are specified - max 6mm - to avoid bringing down motorbikes, and the rumble lines should not be used where there is a risk posed by them to cycle traffic.

    Naked Thermoplastic is as dangerous and slippery as tar banding (used to seal the joints of patch repairs in tarmac) max width 50mm and a recognised hazard for motorbikes.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  25. chdot
    Admin

    (Route to/from)

    By txt

    "

    Hi, did u know there are temp experimental cycle speed reduction barriers on old cramond brig?

    "

    Posted 7 years ago #
  26. acsimpson
    Member

    I've literally just created a thread about them. They were just installed this morning.

    http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17139

    Posted 7 years ago #
  27. HankChief
    Member

    Today's family adventure included employing the chieflets to help clear the leaves of the descent to Cramond Brig.

    Started at the bottom and worked up to the sliproad. Made a bit of a difference but still some permafrost/leaf mulch that was welded to tarmac

    Hard at work by HankChief, on Flickr

    Proper job by HankChief, on Flickr

    Posted 7 years ago #
  28. Greenroofer
    Member

    @HC Awesome! Isn't child labour great? I trust they were appropriately remunerated for this effort.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  29. HankChief
    Member

    The remuneration came in the form of Popcorn AND Hot chocolate WITH Marshmallows once we got home.

    A fair trade I reckon.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  30. Rosie
    Member

    It's great you got the children out like that - makes a change from cleaning chimneys - but how can you get those superglued leaves off the tarmac? I tried on a pavement near me - wouldn't shift with a stable broom. I tried with a spade. No joy. Really need one of those wee trucks with whirling brushes.

    Beginning to think should raise money for one among the cycling fraternity and clear the paths/pavements ourselves!

    I wonder if you can get a cycle powered one... Any mad inventors here with suggestions?

    Posted 7 years ago #

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