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  1. chdot
    Admin

    During -

    Hard at work by HankChief, on Flickr

    I'm not against a bit of hard work/child labour - there are places/things where CEC can't be expected to do 'everything'

    BUT that is MAJOR cycle route that has had a lot of money spent on it.

    And there IS a Cycle Budget.

    After

    Posted 7 years ago #
  2. minus six
    Member

    BUT that is MAJOR cycle route

    Its clearly an iconic world-class high quality cycle route.

    Self-maintenance was built into the design at an early stage.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  3. Rosie
    Member

    @bax

    Self-maintenance - now that's a policy.

    In some countries (Switzerland I think) home owners are required to clear the pavement in front of their houses of snow. I always thought that was a good idea - civic engagement, everyone responsible for their turf.

    Cyclists should have retractable whirling brushes attached to the base of their cycles which they could extend when passing over gluey sludge. They could also drag behind a scraper to sweep up the loosened debris. Come spring, they can remove the device from their cycle.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  4. chdot
    Admin

    "home owners are required to clear the pavement in front of their houses of snow"

    Was/(is?) same here.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  5. Rosie
    Member

    @chdot - I remember there being some controversy about it - if you cleared your pavement and then people fell over you could be liable.

    Seems a bit academic now anyway... last proper snow was in 2009/2010.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  6. fimm
    Member

    Do you know, I was out that path today and was thinking "Who do I need to complain to to see if we can get some of the 10% of the transport budget spent on clearing up the leaves?"

    The thing is, it isn't just that section. Its parts of the NEPN as well. And it certainly isn't the job of HankChief and his child labourers...

    Posted 7 years ago #
  7. gembo
    Member

    Hankchief pays those child labourers the going rate (hot chocolate with marshmallows)

    @rosie, I have to clear the pavement of snow in front of my house because if the snow plough comes by, it creates a three foot high wall of ice that traps us in the house.

    Good exercise

    I will also sweep the leaves when I am stricken by lead sweeping mania. Most still on the trees and bushes? Well I swept maniacally last Sunday and filled thrown bun which inexplicably the otherwise excellent refuse collectors missed (and my neighbour's two, he has double bin as very big garden)

    Posted 7 years ago #
  8. HankChief
    Member

    @chdot - you are right of course, CEC should be clearing the leaves off (main) cycle routes.

    No idea why they haven't done so - it looks like more than 1 year's worth of build up.

    It was my predawn ride out to the bridge last weekend that alerted me to how bad it was. Rather than bothering with the @west_team who I assume have already sent the ' Thanks for tweet we have passed this information on to the appropriate team to investigate.' tweet.

    I couldn't remember where the very bad bits were, so we started at the bottom.

    Perhaps some of the regulars could remind us and help elicit a response from CEC.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  9. HankChief
    Member

    On the subject of doing a good job and getting the welded on leaves up, the ice and *new* snowshovel got on fairly well but I wasn't able to get all of it.

    It did make me wonder if all I had done was uncovered the slippery/icy bits.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  10. HankChief
    Member

    Looks like @laidback tweeted in November but didn't get a response.

    I've now retweeted it

    Posted 7 years ago #
  11. fimm
    Member

    And I've done a couple of retweets (with comments) of HankChief's tweet.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  12. DaveC
    Member

    Hank, Thanks very much for doing this! I know my son's would have a paddy and be balling in the undergrowth before they did anything constructive like this.

    There is a similar problem on the outer 3rd of the Blackhall path, which is very mulchy also... I feel I should at least try to help clear this.

    In stead of doing it on your own next time, why don't you give us fore warning and we can join you on the work party?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  13. Arellcat
    Moderator

    In stead of doing it on your own next time, why don't you give us fore warning and we can join you on the work party?

    He was outmanoeuvered on the matter after his children held an internal leaf mulch conference and determined that the increased risk of them losing their hot chocolate allowance, as a consequence of management favouring outsourcing of services, was too great. It went to a vote with 100% turnout.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  14. minus six
    Member

    Is there a reason why NCN1 West of Cramond Brig hasn't been swept of leaves this winter?

    They never are cleared, until winter is well and truly over.

    So there is presumably a council policy that its only done once a year, in the spring, "otherwise we'll only have to do it again" or somesuch unhelpful economic reasoning.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  15. HankChief
    Member

    In stead of doing it on your own next time, why don't you give us fore warning and we can join you on the work party?

    You're right, but it was a bit of a spur of a moment thing. I was scratching my head for the next adventure to have with them and it sprung to mind - we did combined it with a trip to the playpark by the Brig, so it wasn't all work.

    Let's see if @west_team are spurred into action, but happy to combine forces next time.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  16. acsimpson
    Member

    It looks like someone has been along the path with a mechanical sweeper in the last couple of days. I only noticed as I approached Dalmeny but that climb is certainly clear of it's piles of leaves. The northern slip off the A90 was so full of people enjoying sitting by themselves in their cars that I didn't notice if that stretch was clear but assume it is too.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  17. TractorFactory
    Member

    @acsimpson. Yeah, a roadsweeper lorry was being set up on the path around 0800 on Monday or Tuesday I think. We had to navigate around it.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  18. chdot
    Admin

    CCE/Twitter strikes again(?)

    Posted 7 years ago #
  19. HankChief
    Member

    :-)

    Posted 7 years ago #
  20. DaveC
    Member

    Failing in my cak handed attempt to find the Weather Thread, ...

    Cold this morning on the ride along the A90 etal. The Surface looked like it was trying to freeze but not quite succeeding.

    Still looks like the resident street sweepers have moved to the section from A90 dual carragway up to the old Main Street of Dalmeny, thanks!

    Posted 7 years ago #
  21. fimm
    Member

    Any update on the section between the golf courses at Barnton? That was covered with leaves when I went through the weekend before last.
    I also tweeted that a bit of the NEPN near Silverknowes needs clearing.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  22. neddie
    Member

    Inspired by Hankchief and helpers, I went to clear some of the leaves off the footway outside Gillespie's Primary. The route is used by 100s if not 1000s of school kids everyday. I'd already raised a 'ticket' last year with the council to get it cleared, but they had done nothing.

    Micro edd1e_h helped out, all for an oatcake & a glass of water. We got a few complements and one lady said she normally wrote to her councillors about it each year, but this year she hadn't got round to it - she said she would do it now though...

    It's much worse than it looks in the first picture - you can see by the number of leaves now in the road.

    IMAG0972 BEFORE

    IMAG0973 DURING

    IMAG0974 AFTER

    IMAG0975 Leaf pile

    IMAG0976 Leaf pile

    Posted 7 years ago #
  23. DaveC
    Member

    Well Done Eddie!

    Posted 7 years ago #
  24. Frenchy
    Member

    Well Done Eddie!
    And micro Eddie, too!

    Posted 7 years ago #
  25. chdot
    Admin

    "

    Boston Public Works (@BostonPWD)
    28/01/2017, 4:12 pm
    Harold Park in Roxbury gets blown out and swept as the #CitywideCleanup continues on #bostonstreets this morning

    http://pic.twitter.com/YO74ZczKwY

    "

    Posted 7 years ago #
  26. acsimpson
    Member

    I stopped to chat to a couple of perplexed looking bobbies on the Burnshot slip road today. They had dispatched themselves to follow up complaints about bus lane abuse, without having realised that the flyover was shut and no-one was abusing any bus lanes.

    The A90 was also unusually quiet so the usual queue jumpers were even present. Other than one busy 5 minute spell they said they had seen no cars in over half an hour. I assured them that I hadn't seen any queues longer than 10 cars in teh time the bridge had been shut and they pretty much decided to move onto their next job. Ah well at least they were trying.

    The update they had on the bridge was that it misses being a trunk road by about 50m (I thought it was much more) and so Transport Scotland are forcing the Council to foot the entire repair bill. If it needs replaced it will run to millions which along with North Bridge could take a significant chunk of the transport budget.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  27. acsimpson
    Member

    Oh, and I've tweeted the council to ask about getting the rest of the path swept:

    https://twitter.com/acsedinburgh/status/827518685497741312

    Posted 7 years ago #
  28. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    "it misses being a trunk road by about 50m (I thought it was much more) and so Transport Scotland are forcing the Council to foot the entire repair bill."

    A bit disingenuous surely - are TS not responsible for maintenance of bridges over trunk roads?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  29. jonty
    Member

    I think the A90 is largely not a trunk road, which was part of why getting funding for the improvement of the cycle path was so difficult, I think. I too am surprised however that it somehow is a trunk road for a while and then suddenly stops being so.

    What would happen if it just wasn't rebuilt?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  30. acsimpson
    Member

    The officer I spoke to suggested that the trunk designation starts half way down the slip roads to the north of the bridge rather than 50m below the bridge.

    I don't know if there has been a further update but my understanding of the history is that that prior to Amey taking it over from FETA there was no trunk road on the A90 before it became the M90 at Ferrytoll junction, although both the M90 spur and M90 in Fife were of course trunk roads as are all motorways. When Amey took it over the trunk road seems to have been extended part way down the "Dalmeny Spur" as per this document:
    http://www.transport.gov.scot/system/files/documents/tsc-basic-pages/Road/ListofTrunkRoads.pdf

    Although looking at the references given it's only about 1Km past the M90 spur. Roughly as far as the bridge works extend which would make sense.

    I wonder if the A90 was trunk all the way into Edinburgh if we would still be fighting for the path to be upgraded. TS aren't know for there facilitation of transport which does involve tax revenue per mile.

    Posted 7 years ago #

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