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Motorists and cyclists create army of walking wounded

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  • Started 11 years ago by Baldcyclist
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  1. Baldcyclist
    Member

    This article is creating a bit of a storm apparantly....

    http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/public/cyclesafety/article3986796.ece

    "
    Cyclists are almost as likely as drivers to cause serious injury to pedestrians, analysis of official figures shows
    "

    Posted 11 years ago #
  2. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Interesting, thanks. Demonstrates that any transport activity carries risks for more vulnerable people.

    However this;

    "One pedestrian was killed by a cyclist and 78 were seriously injured in 2012."

    certainly suggests that the figures are subject to huge uncertainty. One death a year just isn't enough to establish any trend.

    To be complete, the article would also have to cover reduced mortality from all causes amongst those who choose to cycle regularly. It may actually be that overall mortality including those killed by cyclists is lower than if no-one cycled.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  3. amir
    Member

    There's also the question of culpability.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  4. Morningsider
    Member

    Misleading headline. The article states that 60% of pedestrians injured by cyclists were at fault, i.e. they caused the accident.

    At least cyclists aren't creating an army of the dead - being five times less likely to kill pedestrians than motorists for the distance travelled.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  5. chdot
    Admin

    "five times less likely to kill pedestrians than motorists for the distance travelled"

    That's a useful stat!

    Posted 11 years ago #
  6. KeepPedalling
    Member

    Also, I think most motorist's miles are on completely segregated infrastructure i.e. motorways. If only cyclists had that luxury...

    Posted 11 years ago #
  7. fimm
    Member

    "five times less likely to kill pedestrians than motorists for the distance travelled"

    No ****, Sherlock - being hit by a person on a bike is less bad for you than being hit by a car...

    Posted 11 years ago #
  8. KeepPedalling
    Member

    I'd like to know how injuries involving pavement cyclists compare to the injuries caused by pedestrians bumping into pedestrians per distance travelled. Be they joggers or ipod zombies or whatever.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  9. amir
    Member

    "Misleading headline. The article states that 60% of pedestrians injured by cyclists were at fault, i.e. they caused the accident."

    So should the title be "Motorists, pedestrians and cyclists create army of walking wounded but it's the motorists that are creating an army of the (non-walking) dead"?

    Posted 11 years ago #
  10. fimm
    Member

    Another question: do we know in what proportion of cyclist-pedestrian collisions both the cyclist & the pedestrian were hurt?

    Posted 11 years ago #

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