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12 months jail - 2 years ban for killing cyclist

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  • Started 10 years ago by ARobComp
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  1. ARobComp
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    http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/jail-driver-who-caused-death-6675517

    Interesting that he had previous convictions for
    " defective tyres and using a mobile phone while driving"
    and
    " previous convictions also include five times driving while disqualified and uninsured"

    having a defective car and also hitting and killing a cyclist...

    But it's ok because
    "he was said to be a hard working man who had brought up a family and raised money for charities .

    “He is remorseful and if he could put back the clock, he would,”

    Not sure how I feel about this one. I don't think he set out to kill anyone and he had previous which is reflected in the fact that he got a custodial sentence. But CLEARLY he should never be behind a wheel again...

    Posted 10 years ago #

  2. le_soigneur
    Member

    Then again, he did get a ban. Contrast this to 2009 when Mr Underdown lost control, ran two people down & got off scot-free
    Perhaps the tide is turning gradually.

    Posted 10 years ago #

  3. Smudge
    Member

    Still should be a lifetime ban. Until then there will be little change in attitude.

    Posted 10 years ago #

  4. ARobComp
    Member

    Interesting - found this article on road CC which is fairly relevant. http://road.cc/content/forum/110081-meet-jury

    Mostly about how the CPS won't go for bigger bans because it would likely goto jury and not get a conviction.

    Posted 10 years ago #

  5. Min
    Member

    Perhaps the tide is turning gradually.

    The tide is not turning. There are endless examples of why not. Here is a case from last week which was pretty much identical only the driver got off completely free.

    He only got that punishment for having been a naughty boy previously, lets face it.

    That road cc article is right on the ball. Too many people want cyclists dead.

    Posted 10 years ago #

  6. le_soigneur
    Member

    Examples and counter-examples, hard to detect a trend without a statistical study.
    I guess the unseen punishment is whether the offender can ever get insurance again once eligible for a licence. Chances are that it will be thousands per annum, especially if their old insurance had to give a big payout. An economic ban from driving again for 5 years effectively.
    Not suggesting that a lengthy ban and re-sitting the test are redundant, clearly not.

    Posted 10 years ago #

  7. Min
    Member

    I am not sure how that is a counter example? His friends were in another car, not riding bikes.

    I would hope that the insurance would prevent people from driving again but it probably just results in them driving without insurance. It's what the guy in the opening post did.

    Posted 10 years ago #

  8. ARobComp
    Member

    Not much better in the US. Man falls asleep at the wheel, kills cyclist, and manages to blame new car smell. Misdemeanour - not felony...
    http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/santacruz/ci_25069553/santa-cruz-county-da-tesla-driver-be-charged

    Posted 10 years ago #

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