CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Infrastructure

Small path problem in Trinity

(35 posts)

No tags yet.


  1. chdot
    Admin

    Pipe laying by the pumping station has blocked the direct routes at the end of McKelvie Parade. There's a temporary path signed just for pedestrians.

    At least there is no 'cyclists dismount' sign!

    Posted 10 years ago #
  2. kaputnik
    Moderator

    This is the same crossing where there are no pedestrian / cycle lights or phase and to cross you are required to launch yourself across the road inbetween gaps in vehicle phases controlled by lights you cannot see... Yes?

    Posted 10 years ago #
  3. chdot
    Admin

    "Yes?"

    Oh yes!

    Also must the only place in the world where a railway bridge (and embankment) has been removed and the road layout NOT altered to allow the removal of traffic lights.

    #thisISedinburgh - can't believe they actually want to impede traffic flow!!

    Posted 10 years ago #
  4. chdot
    Admin

    Posted 9 years ago #
  5. Cyclops
    Member

    That last picture looks like they're changing the road layout (possibly getting rid of the traffic lights?)

    Posted 9 years ago #
  6. chdot
    Admin

    "That last picture looks like they're changing the road layout (possibly getting rid of the traffic lights?)"

    But I don't know if that's what's happening yet

    Photos from 3 weeks ago show big pipes, there were Scottish Water signs.

    Plans below (click for PDFs) show what is due to happen (was told 'May'.)

    Will be cycle/ped crossing to McKelvie Parade. All looks a bit convoluted!

    Full report.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  7. DaveC
    Member

    I never use the path anyway as it leads to a dead end. Just wait for a gap and cycle towards Granton. I usually get to the gyratory before traffic catches me.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  8. chdot
    Admin

    "I never use the path anyway as it leads to a dead end."

    You mean McKelvie Parade?

    It's time it was made to join up!

    Posted 9 years ago #
  9. chdot
    Admin

  10. PS
    Member

    That shared use path is horribly bobbly as well, IIRC. Would be good if they laid it properly as part of your join-up strategy, chdot.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  11. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Big improvement on this junction

    Posted 9 years ago #
  12. neddie
    Member

  13. wingpig
    Member

    McKelvie Parade usable again. Road still three-way-signalled.

    [+] Embed the video | Video DownloadGet the Video Plugins

    Posted 9 years ago #
  14. wingpig
    Member

    There's a bit more paint down now. After you exit McKelvie to go east there's a short stretch of gappy (give way to peds at the crossing) shared-use bit which just goes as far as the point where westbound traffic's stop line used to be. Unfortunately it doesn't go as far as the point where westbound traffic is being stopped whilst the work is ongoing.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  15. wingpig
    Member

    All finished and open on my way home this evening, though the middle ped crossing wasn't on.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  16. chdot
    Admin

    "

    “The work at Trinity Crescent to get rid of the double bend should be finished this week. But residents are worried there will be more traffic after that. The situation is quite ridiculous. Some drivers are going too fast, particularly when the road is quieter.”

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/calls-for-action-at-lower-granton-road-blackspot-1-3484090

    "

    Lower Granton Road is not much fun to walk or cycle along because of the relatively narrow road and pavements

    "

    http://www.edprom.wordpress.com/places/lgr-newhaven

    Posted 9 years ago #
  17. chdot
    Admin

    Check the #tag!

    "

    Kev ☝⚽✋Dickson (@kevdickson)
    21/07/2014 14:54
    @north_team @Edinburgh_CC Yee ha lights have gone from lower granton road now some at ocean drive. #stilltakes30minsfrommuirhousetoseafield

    Same time as cycling!

    http://www.cyclestreets.net/journey/41687545

    "

    Posted 9 years ago #
  18. kaputnik
    Moderator

    From that chipwrapper article;

    The removal of a double bend is to be completed this week in a bid to reduce the accident rate.

    I thought that was all about removing the "traffic bottleneck" with some improvements also to the pedestrian / cycle crossing. It should be fairly hard to crash on such a slow bend with barriers and single direction operation controlled by lights, even for Edinburgh's finest drivists.

    However, Tory councillor Allan Jackson said some residents believe the road still needs to be widened at the west end between Wardie Steps and Granton Square where the greatest danger lies

    Yes, that will really help Cllr. Jackson. The road is already wide and straight. Widening it further will achieve what exactly apart from encouraging an increase in speed. While we're at it, let's dig a big hole in which you can stick your head.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  19. cb
    Member

    "Lower Granton Road is not much fun to walk or cycle along because of the relatively narrow road and pavements"

    What would be useful is if there were an adjacent piece of unused land which could be used to house a high quality cycle/footway.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  20. kaputnik
    Moderator

    What would be useful is if there were an adjacent piece of unused land which could be used to house a high quality cycle/footway.

    A wide, flat sort of bit of land. An old railway embankment perhaps...

    Posted 9 years ago #
  21. chdot
    Admin

    "What would be useful is if there were an adjacent piece of unused land which could be used to house a high quality cycle/footway."

    Would help if CEC actually owned all that land.

    Even then it probably wouldn't be a "priority".

    It's not as though the local residents haven't been complaining/campaigning for YEARS!

    "

    that road is deliberately excluded from 20mph proposals.

    "

    https://twitter.com/pipistrelledog/status/491519213505617920

    Posted 9 years ago #
  22. chdot
    Admin

    "A wide, flat sort of bit of land. An old railway embankment perhaps"

    As you know the actual embankment was removed and the 'footprint' grassed.

    What a waste...

    Posted 9 years ago #
  23. wingpig
    Member

    What is more likely to happen is that the bit off grass beyond the west end of McKelvie Parade would be converted to car parking so that traffic in both directions can try and go too fast, rather than whichever direction reaches the parked-vehicle-derived narrowing first and shoulders through.

    My camera wasn't working on my way home last night but it's worth remembering that the New Cycle Lane going east around the new bend has three parking spaces on the inside of it, to ameliorate the removal of parking-area against the south pavement. Don't worry - there's a foot-wide door-buffer zone included.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  24. chdot
    Admin

    "
    Spokes CycleCampaign (@SpokesLothian)
    22/07/2014 12:34
    Good case to argue for #20mph in consultn: LTS says 20 if "relatively high ped/cycle activity"

    http://www.spokes.org.uk/wordpress/2014/01/edinburgh-local-transport-strategy-2014-19/ @CyclingEdin @Beagle2

    "

    Posted 9 years ago #
  25. Kenny
    Member

    My camera wasn't working on my way home last night

    I'll bite ;)

    [+] Embed the video | Video DownloadGet the Video Plugins

    The finished road is now a joy. It's like common sense has prevailed. Odd.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  26. chdot
    Admin

    "

    James Cocker (@itisJames)
    23/07/2014 10:16
    @CyclingEdin Is it just me or will this sign make some people think they are allowed to cycle on the pavement?

    http://pic.twitter.com/QBYUBrIuDF

    "

    Posted 9 years ago #
  27. chdot
    Admin

    "

    James Cocker (@itisJames)
    23/07/2014 17:42
    @CyclingEdin Just checked. On the other side it’s a separated cycle/pedestrian! Def something wrong. @north_team @adamrmcvey @SpokesLothian

    '

    Posted 9 years ago #
  28. chdot
    Admin

    "

    North Team (@north_team)
    24/07/2014 09:48
    @itisJames @CyclingEdin @adamrmcvey @SpokesLothian thanks everyone, will pass to cycling team for comment, EL

    "

    Posted 9 years ago #
  29. chdot
    Admin

    "

    “I think the majority want the road pushed away from their homes. There is a big grassy area towards the seaside where it could go.”

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/calls-to-move-granton-blackspot-away-from-homes-1-3487150

    Lots of interesting facts (or not) here -

    http://www.edinburghsworstdrivers.com/residents-demand-action-at-notorious-city-accident-blackspot-1-1418/#comment-267

    Posted 9 years ago #
  30. chdot
    Admin

    "

    North Team (@north_team)
    24/07/2014 10:23
    @itisJames @CyclingEdin @adamrmcvey @SpokesLothian Team aware sign incorrect & Contractor to replace with appropriate ‘no cycling’ sign, EL

    "

    Posted 9 years ago #

RSS feed for this topic

Reply »

You must log in to post.


Video embedded using Easy Video Embed plugin