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"school run set to be banned in 5 city streets"

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  • Started 10 years ago by SRD
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  1. SRD
    Moderator

    Sorry, can't find original thread/discussion

    http://www.deadlinenews.co.uk/2014/03/18/school-run-set-to-be-banned-a-five-city-schools/

    Posted 10 years ago #
  2. chdot
    Admin

  3. SRD
    Moderator

    Argh! I used the 'search' function and the google option. Neither came up with anything.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  4. chdot
    Admin

    I just put Haddington into CCE search.

    Works sometimes...

    Posted 10 years ago #
  5. SRD
    Moderator

    My mistake - I was searching East Lothian. Forgot about Haddington mention,

    Posted 10 years ago #
  6. recombodna
    Member

    You got some good photos there.
    I like the incredulous disembodied hand pic.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  7. SRD
    Moderator

  8. Min
    Member

    Good stuff. Well done!

    Posted 10 years ago #
  9. Morningsider
    Member

    SRD - nice one. I love the frantic justification that living "very far away" means you obviously have to park beside your child's coat peg.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  10. gembo
    Member

    Bruntsfield Primary catchment is quite spread out but no one living in the catchment couldn't walk their kids to school if they had the time.

    Thus when the PTA chair says some people live very far away that makes it likely that they may live outwith the catchment and have made a placing request for a popular school.

    If I ruled the world, anyone doing this would be asked to park their car appropriately and if they did not do so, their children would be asked to leave the school and attend their catchment school. Luckily, I do not rule the world as I guess that would be seen as quite unreasonable.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  11. EddieD
    Member

    I don't think I was the only one, but it feels good that my complaint against Irritatinly Intelligent pillock got upheld...

    And Sara, I'm glad you're getting this long overlooked issue some attention - I go to work before the school run (yes, even working at EdUni), but I'll try and divert to see if I can get cam footage to show how ubiquitous this is.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  12. SRD
    Moderator

    Thanks all.

    Various points: The chair says he said a lot of other stuff that didn't get included. I also feel a bit bad because he doesn't really know anything about the 'school street' proposals so wasn't talking from a terribly well-informed position. He's waiting on a cycle-to-work voucher though...

    Yes catchment is pretty spread out. I can see that walking kid to school and the. Back home in time to get to work would be difficult. That is why MANY parents walk with their kids, pushing bikes, then ride to work. Lots of others drive but park considerately.

    Friday 12-13.30 would be the ideal time for footage as it is a complete free fora
    Lon the street then, but I don't want to be seen to encourage lots of blokes with cameras to hang about...

    Posted 10 years ago #
  13. LaidBack
    Member

    Good pictures and can see why allowing cars to enter it for drop offs is not a sensible option. To encourage cycling and walking we need to create a calmer, less congested/polluted environment. A school access is a good place to start.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  14. Snowy
    Member

    "Chairman Antonis Giannopoulos said: “I don’t think it’s a bad idea but we have to look at all the implications – some parents live very far away and can’t just walk to school.”"

    The most distant reaches of the Bruntsfield catchment are less than 1km away (down near Myreside).

    Vast majority within 750m.

    The small number of out-of-catchment places notwithstanding, and not ruling out persons of reduced mobility, I'd love to know his definition of 'very far away'.

    Good work SRD.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  15. crowriver
    Member

    We discussed the School Streets pilot at Parent Council last night. In a word, contentious!

    Will have to go out for 'further consultation' with the Parent Forum. Surveymonkey here I come...

    Posted 10 years ago #
  16. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Was amazed to find out (via the book of faces) that Bruntsfield staff park their personal motors in the playground. There's barely enough space for the kids to get out and run around at break time without it being filled with cars.

    My granda used to be janitor there and I spent some time growing up in the schoolhouse visiting them (back in the day when the council provided tied houses for janitors). I don't recall it ever being a car park then, but I assume once they bought in residents/tickets and regulations parking control that it changed.

    On a tangent, it was useful having grandparents who got long summer holidays and had their "own" swimming pool :) He also kept pigeons up on the roof. The pigeons were all called George and were weakly squabs he had rescued.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  17. gembo
    Member

    Kapps, was it your granda A? Our janny Jimmy round the corner at merchiston Pk used to hold him in high esteem. Probably one of the better janny posts. They also used to run in families. Wonder what the school house is used for now?

    Actually jimmy was technically employed as a cleaner but as he did no cleaning and his name was alliterative he was always jimmy the janny. He is now a janny and I used to see him in this post quite often - always very cheery. The posting was in Wester Hailes so not quite Bruntsfield.

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  18. kaputnik
    Moderator

    No it was Granda C. Who was also a Jimmy. My janny at Fox Covert in the 90s was also a (different) Jimmy. But we had to call him Mr Grey. He let you ring the school bell if you expressed an interest in Hibs.

    School house at Bruntsfield now a private house.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  19. SRD
    Moderator

    "School house at Bruntsfield now a private house."

    One of my colleagues lives there.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  20. kaputnik
    Moderator

    One of my colleagues lives there.

    Then you can pass on to them that a young K would be given his bath in the kitchen sink by Nana C.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  21. gembo
    Member

    Ah the old bath in the kitchen sink, we used to get that but not sure why. Maybe in early seventies three day week scenario, will ask my ma. When we went to my granny's she used to wash us in the washing up basin. She put a towel down on floor and then a large silver tray and then the basin.

    When I was in Indonesia many years ago, in the toilets there were huge barrels of water and a wee plastic pan in each cubicle. The idea being you could wash your whole person. Very muggy even where I was in the Bandung Hills.

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  22. SRD
    Moderator

    Bruntsfield primary HT has indicated our interest in participating in the school streets trial. And was out today in the rain observing the chaos!

    Not even gone to parents council yet.

    Good to have her on side.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  23. chdot
    Admin

    That is [i]good[/I news.

    Presume she knows that BPS was one of the very first "Safe Routes" schools in Edinburgh.

    http://www.spokes.org.uk/oldsite/sr2snews.htm

    http://www.spokes.org.uk/oldsite/bp.htm

    Posted 10 years ago #
  24. Charlethepar
    Member

    @SRD

    The parent council would not come to a sensible view in any case, for fear of offending the small minority who drive.

    In much the same way that no one challenges the parents who regularly reverse over the crossing points, as they are all just too polite to point out their potenitally life threatening actions.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  25. chdot
    Admin

    "The parent council would not come to a sensible view in any case, for fear of offending the small minority who drive."

    Whether that refers to BPS, or generally, I hope that's not the case.

    I think the climate is changing on all this - which is the reason for the Haddington experiment and the (generally) positive responses AND this CEC initiative.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  26. Cyclingmollie
    Member

    I cycled past Campie Primary yesterday afternoon and a police driver had stopped at the end of the nursery road. He was causing quite a tailback among drivers who were having to find alternatives to parking on the double-yellow lines or driving right up to the nursery gates.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  27. chdot
    Admin

    "police driver had stopped at the end of the nursery road. He was causing quite a tailback"

    There 'on purpose' or coincidental?

    Posted 10 years ago #
  28. crowriver
    Member

    The problem is that, as I understand it, Parent Councils have to register interest. Our HT is in favour, but some strident voices on PC against. Still haven't done my survey, hopefully next week, as we have to register interest with Council by the end of May. All it will take in my view is for a majority of parents in the Parent Forum (ie. all the parents) to be in favour. Parent Council is simply the representative body.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  29. SRD
    Moderator

    "The parent council would not come to a sensible view in any case, for fear of offending the small minority who drive."

    Last PC meeting all but 2 parents showed up with panniers and/or helmets, so I think we're in a pretty strong positon. I've also been organising support. the ones who drive, but stop safely not in front of the school resent the ones who drop at the gate even more than the cyclists do. I think there's potential there for a positive position.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  30. chdot
    Admin

    I think there's potential there for a positive position."

    Next thing is to react to 'masses of schools register' by calling for 'rapid pilot' and rejigging 'roads budget' to make work possible at 'all' schools ASAP.

    Posted 10 years ago #

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