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"school run set to be banned in 5 city streets"

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  • Started 10 years ago by SRD
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  1. SRD
    Moderator

    "rapid pilot"

    Unlikely to be that rapid. unfortunately, they are going to have to apply to Scot Govt for permission to use new electronic sign that will show when road closed (too hard to signal with permanent signs given holidays etc).

    So unlikely for pilot to start before summer term 2015, proposed to run for 18 months until Dec 16.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  2. Charlethepar
    Member

    @SRD

    Ah good, that sounds positive with respect to the Parent Council, thanks.

    And thanks for your campaining efforts.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  3. chdot
    Admin

    "So unlikely for pilot to start before summer term 2015, proposed to run for 18 months until Dec 16."

    Well when (if) there is 'overwhelming demand', might need some 'pressure on politicians'.

    Some schools might manage with a few strategic planters...

    Posted 10 years ago #
  4. WickyWocky
    Member

    Sorry if I've missed this in the thread somewhere, but how do I find more info about this, and how would a Parent Council go about registering interest? I'm not sure if I'm brave enough to put it before the Parent Council though. I think the main reaction would be "It's too busy a road, they'll never shut it", which is the main argument for it being closed.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  5. SRD
    Moderator

    Your Ht and PC should have received info from council.

    I can't find anything on website either. You could try emailing the 'safer streets' folk to ask. I'll see what I can find.

    There will be some streets that are not suitable, but for the pilot they do want to try a variety of sites to see what works and what doesn't.

    (PS this is why I joined PC in the first place!)

    Posted 10 years ago #
  6. WickyWocky
    Member

    Thanks. I think it's probably been dismissed without discussion. Nothing was even mentioned when we were discussing the access to school and road safety issues at a 'rising roll' meeting. We've a meeting later in May so I'll try and get it on the agenda.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  7. SRD
    Moderator

    Nothing but positive feedback at PC last night.

    what a relief!

    now to see which schools they select...

    Posted 10 years ago #
  8. crowriver
    Member

    Aye, we've managed to win folk over at the meeting last night, and the HT is strongly in favour. E-mails sent, just got to wait and see.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  9. SRD
    Moderator

    good for you! suspect you had a harder row to plough, so well done.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  10. crowriver
    Member

    It helped that this time there was official information from CEC to pass round. Also that it's not happening until 2015, far enough away for folk to imagine their kids walking to school, maybe even on their own.....y'know, like most of us probably did when we were young.

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  11. Min
    Member

    Cool. Well done. :-)

    *waves CCE flag*

    Posted 10 years ago #
  12. chdot
    Admin

    "*waves CCE flag*"

    Oh so it's you who's got it...

    Posted 10 years ago #
  13. Min
    Member

    Do we actually have a flag?

    A bicycle rampant over three cars passant on a field gules?

    Posted 10 years ago #
  14. AKen
    Member

    A tram sinister?

    Posted 10 years ago #
  15. wingpig
    Member

    "VELOCIPEDIASTES DEGREDOR"

    With an upright rampant, a recumbent couchant and a Bromptan stowant, perhaps sort of embattled, but with less evenly-spaced lumps so it looks more like potholes and badly-replaced setts than crenellations?

    Posted 10 years ago #
  16. chdot
    Admin

  17. SRD
    Moderator

    Papers for next Transport committee meeting include this update:

    http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/download/meetings/id/43367/item_74_-_delivering_the_lts_school_streets

    Don't think there's anything actually 'new' here.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  18. chdot
    Admin

    "

    more than 30 city primaries have asked to take part in a groundbreaking trial to ban cars from nearby streets at drop-off times.

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/primaries-vie-to-join-car-ban-scheme-1-3435637

    Posted 10 years ago #
  19. Kim
    Member

    There is a clear desire for this move, but is it enough to over rule the vested interests of the majority councillors on the transport committee? Lets face it there are councillors who are prepared to see children being killed or injured, if it means that they don't have to say no to the reckless driving lobby.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  20. chdot
    Admin

    "reckless driving lobby"

    Which one is that - that has the 'ear of Councillors'?

    Posted 10 years ago #
  21. Greenroofer
    Member

    I was at the South Morningside Primary Summer Fair this afternoon. Disappointed to see two families driving away from the event to their homes on Craiglea Drive and the nearby Terraces. Probably a five minute walk, and despite the fact that I was walking with 5-year old micro-Greenroofer I saw them get into their cars and I saw them get out of them.

    I struggle to understand why they would even contemplate taking a car that distance.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  22. SRD
    Moderator

    "Vested interests of the majority of councillors on the transport committee".

    Really? Which transport committee is this?

    Posted 10 years ago #
  23. Charlethepar
    Member

    Heavy rain at chucking out time yesterday, so really stupid chaos in the streets outside Bruntsfield Primary. Double parked all the way along the road, just leaving space for one car to squeese past. Cars just stopping in the road, including on the ped crossings. Frustrated drivers starting to honk their horns at each other, as arriving drivers had no way to get anywhere as all space already blocked by others. All in limited visibility.

    Surprisingly enough, although he got very, very wet, my 6 year old son survived the walk home. Turns out children are waterproof ater all.

    Also occured to me that these driving parents are stupid and insular enough not to realise that if lots of them drive then they won't be able to stick their cars anywhere near the shool gate, however illegal. I fear that it is all too likely that even if the law was changed, unless it was intensively enforced they would continue their behaviour, in the blinkered belief that they are doing the right thing for their children, and that appears in their minds to trump any obligations they have to the community as a whole.

    I am also tempted once again to try to organise a "drive to school week". The plan would be that, for a week, all willing participants with access to a car would drive their children to school, however absurdly short the distance. The resulting chaos and congestion would demonstrate to 'the authorities', and perhaps even to the regular drivers, that driving to school is not a viable solution and should be stopped.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  24. SRD
    Moderator

    Mad wasn't it. Not helped that school was letting entire roll out one door, one at a time.

    As I said to a few parents - it's nothing a towel won't fix once you get home. Although to be fair, some we're being taken off to other activities.

    Baffling the number who came out the door without even a jacket or hood on though.

    I should have a video of the entire street double parked as you describe.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  25. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Scotland's the kind of country where people will spend £300 on designer sunglasses to wear on the top of their heads but consider £30 for a decent umbrella to be an extravegance.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  26. SRD
    Moderator

    umbrellas weren't much use. we're talking torrential rain. even my hat had pretty much given in by the time we got home.

    but despite the forecast of rain, these kids had apparently been sent to school in hoodies.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  27. crowriver
    Member

    Ah, the old "I mistook my car for an umbrella" chestnut.

    Why on earth are folk so scared of a bit of rain? We live in Scotland, FFS!

    Posted 10 years ago #
  28. SRD
    Moderator

    Schools, well actually parent councils, have now been asked for more info because "we received applications from 30 schools from which we must select a maximum of 5...this is proving to be a challenging problem as the majority of the schools would be suitable and are keen to be chosen"

    Posted 10 years ago #
  29. crowriver
    Member

    Schools have certainly been asked. I found out earlier this week. Will check the PC info, was not aware of this.

    Maybe they should double the pilot given there is so much interest? Also, if all 30 schools are suitable, maybe some extra measures at those schools that do not get selected for the pilot?

    Posted 10 years ago #
  30. SRD
    Moderator

    letter says 'a copy has also been sent to H-T in case they may also wish to submit info' but it seems like the onus is on parents. short turn-around too.

    Posted 10 years ago #

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