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CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » General Edinburgh
"school run set to be banned in 5 city streets"
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Posted 9 years ago #
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Let's play guess the quote maker....
We are not absolutely convinced this is really required on road safety grounds. There are very few accidents outside schools in Edinburgh. It’s actually a very safe location. There’s no strong safety case
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@WC
Too easy.
Do the people who pay his wages really want him to say such things??
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"Do the people who pay his wages really want him to say such things?"
Unfortunately, it sounds like his job title allows him to determine what his employer should favour/support or abhor/decry.
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"We are not absolutely convinced"
Royal we?
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Posted 9 years ago #
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"There are very few accidents..."
I wonder how many 'accidents' the IAM believes are acceptable before something should be done to try and stop them.
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"There are very few accidents..."
and they all involve children
so...
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and they all involve children
There was a parking attendant (adult, in a hi-viz vest) hit by a car outside St. Johns earlier this year.
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>> Do the people who pay his wages really want him to say such things??
No. Other IAM members I've spoken to do not subscribe to Mr Greig's car-centric libertarianism.
Mr Greig should probably re-acquaint himself with the IAM's stated purpose on the front of the website:
"The IAM is the UK’s leading independent road safety charity." "...the IAM is uniquely positioned to help improve the skills and understanding of UK drivers, riders & cyclists."
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I must look into how Mr Greig is continually selected for his position as chief mouthpiece.
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Have you considered writing to the IAM and suggesting that the Mouthpiece doesn't represent you. Maybe if they get enough letters of that ilk they'll reign him in. I know I'd never even consider an organisation with that ejit as the public face.
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"Does @iamgroup have a recommended min number of accidents? Mr Greig disagrees with Embra school ban cos there are 'very few'. 10? 15?"
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Maybe that's motorbike(?)
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@adamrmcvey: School street scheme approved at today's transport committee, closely monitoring impacts on Abbeyhill & sciennes. http://t.co/zAQphNNKDX
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"Bonaly and Buckstone primaries were also part of initial plans but pulled out amid opposition from parents and surrounding residents."
Hmm. Not encouraging. Perhaps we'll see organised opposition in other locations too?Certainly there were parents against at Abbeyhill, but very much a minority. Some who were previously against now want the scheme extended to cover the southern approaches to the school, as they have seen for themselves how dangerous it is trying to cross the road.
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A friend of mine was hit (happily not hard) by a car outside Bonaly Primary back when I attended. And there were fewer cars about* back in the early
mesolithic80s, so I imagine it's pretty bad now.*we mostly walked the mile+ to school, on our own starting from P3 or so (P1 & 2 were in the Annex at the bottom of Thorburn Road - the old Victorian school building. Now converted into flats, of course.) Wonder how many P3s are allowed to walk a mile on their own** now? Or could, given the traffic...
**well, sort of on our own - as the oldest of four, eventually there was a whole posse of us, and obviously there were other local kids we knew making the same journey, which presumably led to a sort of safety in numbers effect that's now absent.
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Message from headteacher:-
"Dear Parents and Carers,
Community Police Officer, Karen Stewart, will talk with our pupils regarding the following road safety topics:
•Being respectful of others on roads.These talks on road safety follow a couple of incidents last week. On Friday afternoon, we received a phone call from a member of the public, a group of P7s were using the road as a playground and intentionally walked in front of cars, stopped on the road, held up their hand, causing the cars to come to a halt."
While I appreciate the safety concern, our school was not included in the schools road closure programme, and is surrounded by idiotic and unnecessary drivers twice a day. In that context, I have some understanding of why the P7s should take matters into their own hands. Its the system that's broken, not our P7s.
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The P7s turn Militant and Reclaim the Streets!
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@charlethepar I was just saying something similar on FB. grrr.
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Hooray for the P7s! Can we all join in?
(How old are P7s?)Posted 8 years ago # -
a group of P7s were using the road as a playground and intentionally walked in front of cars, stopped on the road, held up their hand, causing the cars to come to a halt
Good for them!
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I suspect I'll be a sole voice of dissent here, but knowing what many drivers are like, I'm not sure I'd be encouraging P7s to do this (I also reckon, from my experience of being a P7 and doing this kind of thing, that it's more an acting-the-goat, having-a-laugh thing than actually reclaiming the streets).
It's all fun till someone gets hit by a car etc etc. (and yes, it would (probably) be the driver's fault (depending on the exact circumstances) but that still ends with a kid being hit by a car - one straightforward question for those saying it's a great thing, will you be telling your kids to start walking out into roads and getting traffic to stop?)
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@wcow yes, I'm sure you're right. they're acting up and think its hilarious to make the cars stop. but,. at the same time, it's a cul-de-sac with 2 pedestrian crossings. if the cars aren't able to stop then something's wrong. and most of them shouldn't be there anyway.
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@WC
What I object to is that the automatic response of authority is to tell the P7s to get back in their box/ on the pavement and cower in the face of the almighty car.
The first thought is everyone's mind should be about how our society is so shit that we have reached this point where people complain that children are playing in their streets.
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I'm not saying the cars should be there, or that this should be the school's response - indeed if it's a cul-de-sac then it seems utterly bizarre that it shouldn't be a safe space for kids. And the school should absolutely be thinking about ways in which they can change the status quo.
But. Will you be telling your kids to go out into the roads and stop traffic? I suspect not, because it is a dangerous thing to do in the current situation, despite 'well done' etc for the P7s doing it in this case.
We all want the same result, I just don't think telling P7s it's safe and correct to do this kind of thing is the route to take (though as it has happened can surely be used as ammunition to tell the school what it 'should' be doing, rather than its response).
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