A clear case of misdiagnosing the problem:
(Motor)Biker's eye view of danger road
It's not the road that's dangerous though, is it?
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When is a road dangerous?
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Posted 11 years ago #
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Funnily enough I was looking at that. The road has been made less dangerous over years by 50 mph speed limit and average speed cameras.
Think the boy motorbiker accelerated too quickly then misjudged the corner. Incredible that he survived unscathed.
Posted 11 years ago # -
I've always wondered if motorcycles are as inherently dangerous as their statics would suggest or if there is an element of self selection in the sample group. Do people who are attracted to doing "dangerous" things pick up high powered bikes, do something dangerous and add to the statistics. I realise that a motorcycles speed and adds an element to the familiar vulnerability on the road "we" all know.
Posted 11 years ago # -
It doesn't really help road safety when they show videos of people 'getting away with it' only by good fortune. Only adds to the feeling of invincibility.
What they should instead show is a video of the police officers having to clear up the carnage in the majority of cases where they 'don't get away with it'.
Posted 11 years ago # -
The police / road safety folk have a name for the problem - born again bikers. (mostly) Blokes in the crisis years trying to recapture their youth but now with the money to do a direct access course and skip straight over the 250cc of their teens and go for something with a bit more oomph. And then it's knee down round those rural bends and off into a field (or a wall or a tree).
Of course you can say that the people are the problem but if your job is to reduce casualties you can categorise the people and start the long, largely hopeless, job of changing them or you can categorise the road and start the process to change that instead.
Posted 11 years ago # -
To paraphrase; what if we make the road safer for everyone even if it doesn't help certain problem users.
Posted 11 years ago # -
When is a road dangerous?.... when you have idiots like that on the road!
Clip starts off with him over taking another motorbike on double unbroken white lines, pretty sure thats against the law and then he goes to fast round the bend.
Pretty sure the motorbike he passed made the corner no problem.
Posted 11 years ago # -
I enjoyed the commentary stating "Perfect conditions for safe biking" while He is on the wrong side of solid white centre lines.
I'm not a motor biker but it's painfully obvious his line into the corner is wrong too. I suspect he was so busy looking at his speedo he didn't see the bend coming.
Posted 11 years ago # -
@Insto Also known as "organ donors".
Dangerous road, that, what with the yellow-backgrounded zig-zag warning signs on both sides of the road, continual unbroken "no-overtaking" white lines up the middle of the carriageway, followed by two large painted "SLOW" warnings on the tarmac and the chevron barriers indicating a sharp left turn. Something should be done.
I've only watched it with the sound down. I take it the reporter spends the duration of the interview asking the guy why he is such a total idiot, followed by some pointing and laughing?
Posted 11 years ago # -
"I've only watched it with the sound down. I take it the reporter spends the duration of the interview asking the guy why he is such a total idiot, followed by some pointing and laughing?"
The idiot in question makes a comment about having learnt his lesson. He doesn't say what the lesson is but I suspect it's something along the lines of don't film yourself being an idiot if you want your insurance to pay out. He might soon add don't publicise your idiocy if you don't want 6 points on your licence for dangerous driving.
Posted 11 years ago # -
Unless there are pits with spikes on it, or a 100 foot drop on either side with no crash barriers, roads in themselves are not "dangerous" in themselves. It's the way people use them which is.
Cycle paths on the other hand, littered with lane-centre obstructions in camouflage grey and black, right-angle bends, dubious lines of sight, unprotected merging with fast-moving traffic, sub-standard crossings. Now they are dangerous.
Posted 11 years ago # -
Mmmmh. Inter-biker solidarity prevents me from using the word 'knob' in any context other than the front door I'm sure he was releived to be able to open when he got home. The Cat and Fiddle is notorious as a good place to either die or get arrested.
Motorcycles are for grown-ups, and anyone who rides one without having ingested, digested and acted on this;
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Motorcycle-Roadcraft-Police-Handbook-Motorcycling/dp/011341143X
is asking for trouble.
Posted 11 years ago # -
There are some people who are idiots, be they on 2 wheels or 4, powered or pedalled. Unforunately give them access to a 1,000CC machine that weighs a few hundred kilogrammes and is very fast and maneouvrable and this acts as a "force multiplier" to their idiocy. It's a lot harder for them to do themselves harm under their own 1/4hp leg-and-lung engine.
Posted 11 years ago # -
Idiot.
And it is the road that is dangerous, not the driver? If he'd been in a car he'd have kiiled the people in the car coming the other way, as well as himself.Posted 11 years ago # -
"It's a lot harder for them to do themselves harm under their own 1/4hp leg-and-lung engine"
I frankly wouldn't let anyone lose on a powered two-wheeler until they've put in a couple of years on an unpowered two-wheeler.
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