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SMIDSY deconstruction and the SIAM

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  1. Arellcat
    Moderator

    Apropros of the Angus traffic collision today, a couple of days ago I was watching a video about how the SMIDSY can occur, and what we (as bikers, or cyclists) can actively do about it to try reduce the occurrence—and can occur anywhere, really.

    The main factors are apparently 'looming', where a small faraway object seems to stay small and faraway until suddenly IT'S RIGHT THERE!, and 'camouflage', where people on two wheels are made still more invisible because of the bitty, fiddly silhoutte compared with the slab of monocolour car that (many) people are tuned to look for.

    Super bright lights don't help with looming, because that's not distance perception, and bits of hi-viz don't necessarily help with camouflage because that's not an object discernment-identification thing; John Franklin refers to it as perspicuity. Flashing red lights might help identification these days, but not distance perception. Huge slabs of colour might be better, which is why Police motorbikes are mostly recommended to be bright yellow and their riders also bright yellow. But even a motorbiker isn't the size of a car, especially when viewed end-on, let alone a cyclist.

    Then there's a SMIDSY Identification and Avoidance Manoeuvre that involves weaving to break up the camouflage against the static background and perhaps aid in distance perception.

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    Posted 10 years ago #
  2. Kenny
    Member

    Love it!

    I especially like the part where the presenter makes it clear that it's the responsibility of the motorcyclist to make sure they are visible. IMHO, it doesn't matter whether it's technically the car driver's fault if they hit you - if you can do more to make sure you are seen, and thus avoid getting hit, it's a winner in my book.

    An added bonus of the SIAM is that people are immediately wary of you and wonder what you're up to, and thus hang back. Double bonus points!

    I shall start trying to use SIAM in future.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  3. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Perception is certainly the thing, and all of us underestimate the difficulty of seeing the unexpected at our peril.

    I was able to observe myself once motorcycling on the A9 as my brain struggled to resolve the conflict;

    You are approaching a horse-drawn gypsy caravan at high speed / Horse-drawn gypsy caravans are not present on dual carriageways

    My eyes had seen the caravan, but my brain refused to accept it as a road hazard until my concious mind stepped in and ordered the application of the brakes. I expect to see two-wheelers everywhere, but I guess for many motorists, we are all gypsy caravans.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  4. gembo
    Member

    On a bicycle approaching an intersection with a car I like to look the driver in the eye and make sure he or she sees me looking at him/her. SIAM is a bit like that but for faster motorbikes.?

    Posted 10 years ago #
  5. crowriver
    Member

    Less of the rock guitar with fake flames through the titles already. Otherwise good.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  6. @gembo - Good advice. that's exactly what every cyclist should do. Same on roundabouts,

    Posted 10 years ago #
  7. crowriver
    Member

    Oops, wrong thread.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  8. neddie
    Member

    If there's time to perform a SIAM, there would also be time to reduce your speed by 10 - 20mph. This would then make it easier to stop to avoid a collision, or at least reduce the severity.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  9. gembo
    Member

    Unless you are Guy Martin the SIAM is going to make you reduce speed coming up to junctions.

    Same thing happens for me on my bike, I become even slower than normal so I can see the whites of their eyes

    Posted 10 years ago #
  10. sallyhinch
    Member

    @IWRATS - reminds me of a story (true but I think the link to the original news report is now long gone) of an American couple who drove straight into an escaped circus elephant. The wife had seen the elephant and warned her husband but he couldn't process the information at all (elephants are also surprisingly difficult to see as they're the opposite of hi vis). I don't recall what happened to the elephant, clearly the couple survived.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  11. Cyclingmollie
    Member

    Making eye contact isn't any guarantee that a driver isn't going to pull out in front of you in my experience. There was a study a few years ago which suggested that making eye contact just adds an extra, inter-personal element to the driving experience and may actually serve to further confuse drivers.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  12. gembo
    Member

    Eye contact alone no guarantee. Any link to study? I was nearly taken out by old fellow at the very bad junction at kingsknowe. cars edge out into first lane of A70 as side road is set way back from the intersection and a right turn is well nigh impossible across the two lanes. I was making contact coming down the hill but think he might have been blind in one eye and couldn't see out of the other. Very very close as he drove straight at me. I was not going fast but I was not slowing down.

    My lived experience (tho could easily be knocked off shortly) is if I slow right down and stare at them, really stare at them they stay put. Some drivers go, why are you being so dramatic of course I can see you but I go back, good show. this is all done with looks and gestures.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  13. paul.mag
    Member

    I think what Gembo is saying is that he performs his own version of the motorcyclists SIAM.

    1. See the potential danger ahead
    2. Adjust speed
    3. Look for recognition from the driver meaning you are probably not looming or camouflaged

    I also look to see if the front wheel of the car is moving at all

    Posted 10 years ago #
  14. KeepPedalling
    Member

    Interesting video. If I am going a good speed I do that wobble to be more eyecatching. Just because a driver is "looking" at you doesn't mean they are looking for anything other than a 6 foot wide car.

    Also, if a car is approaching from the side, look to see if you are in the blind spot made by their windscreen pillar.

    To further protect yourself from side road Smidsy, slipstream motorists at all times (only kidding ;)

    Posted 10 years ago #
  15. crowriver
    Member

    Even eye contact, SIAM, etc. doesn't protect against the "I'm fast I am, I'll just nip out and turn before that slow cyclist arrives" brigade.

    Even if they've seen you, you're not necessarily safe.

    I also do that 'Paddington hard stare' routine. No idea if it works but it makes me feel better.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  16. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Just tested this technique after putting the motorcycle back on the road for the first time this year.

    Got quite a few baffled looks from drivists, which basically means that it works. I also had a guy drive his car the wrong side of the traffic island at the junction of the A703 and A701 as I approached. Certainly never expected that.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  17. Arellcat
    Moderator

    Here's a short but useful essay, hosted on the San Luis Obispo Bicycle Club website:

    A Fighter Pilot's Guide to Surviving on the Roads

    Conclusions are that not seeing moving stuff in your fovea is how human vision tends to work; that everyone should look more; that as a cyclist or motorbiker you should play to car drivers' peripheral vision, using hi-viz and/or flashing lights; and try to ameliorate vision problems when the sun is low.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  18. gembo
    Member

    Red arrows flew over Balerno yesterday afternoon in formation and one plane tailing off.

    The fighter pilot instructin to drivers to slow down as they approach a junction or roundabout is I think in the Highway Code? However, what you get in reality is speeding up to hit a gap?

    Further advice to cyclists to look at the head of drivers at junctions/ roundabouts is good. He says if the head continues to scan then they haven't seen you. However, I don't assume that if the head has stopped that they have seen you. Look into their souls at every junction and use meta-human power to extract acknowledgement that they have seen you (sorry I watched Suicide Squad at cinema yesterday and it has had an effect).

    Fighter pilot also taking pragmatic approach on hi-viz, lights and helmets that some cyclists are less keen on.

    I go with until infrastructure is improved and presumed liability is turned into legislation, here is some advice you might want to consider.

    Posted 8 years ago #

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