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tramlining in cobbles

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  1. algo
    Member

    Hello,

    cycling across these cobbles, at least with my 28 tyres is really treacherous. I've clarenced this but I wondered if the mortar being washed out between cobbles is a more common problem? I may have missed an existing thread on this...

    Posted 10 years ago #
  2. wingpig
    Member

    Unusual for the entire swathe to be laid longitudinally to the direction of travel - those at the edge of the High Street are perpendicular to the main section of the street so I sometimes use them to reduce the frequency of juddering. Deepening of the gaps between then unlikely to help - it's possibly a bad combination of sett-spacing and wheel-size, such as with the square-bump surface on the join of the path round Holyrood Park just across from Croft-an-Righ, which didn't bother me with 23s but is noticeable with 25s.

    Your bit looks about as cycle-friendly as the Jeffrey St/Canongate junction, where there's a half-arsed tarmac patch over a larger slipping/escarpmenting group of diagonally-arranged setts, though their problem was not so much escaping filler as no filler and inadequate preparation of the underlying surface.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  3. algo
    Member

    good point about wheel size - these are probably worst on 28s. I think part of the problem is that you tend to be looking for traffic (I am usually turning left there) so looking to my right and slowing down - I reckon it wouldn't be so bad if I could concentrate on where the wheels are and maintain a bit of speed. Strangely the tactile paving slabs on the meadows laid longitudinally often have my rear wheel slipping a bit, but it's never a problem as they aren't "stuck" - which is what it feels like in these ones, and I'm usually able to carry a bit of speed over them depending on pedestrians etc...

    Posted 10 years ago #
  4. DaveC
    Member

    Why are you riding along this stretch of busy road when a perfectly good glass strewn cycle route exists to the south?? :O)

    South Queensferry high street has similar narrow links between the cobbled street. They are trecherous and I avoid it unless its dry and likely to be traffic free!

    Posted 10 years ago #
  5. algo
    Member

    that's a good question Dave - I prefer to enjoy the shards by daylight...

    Posted 10 years ago #
  6. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Good example of setts being installed the wrong way, probably for the designers vanity / cosmetic reasons than any other.

    Plenty other bad examples are available...

    At the far end of that road I generally ride the gutter.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  7. Snowy
    Member

    The western third of Thirlestane Road was resurfaced some time after the rest of it, and to a considerably worse standard. It has gaps between the setts that can completely swallow 32c tyres, and will tramline MTB knobbly tyres. Truly dreadful.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  8. chdot
    Admin

    "At the far end of that road I generally ride the gutter."

    But you know that's where you are SUPPOSED to ride (all the time).

    Posted 10 years ago #
  9. Colonies_Chris
    Member

    East Clairemont St has several platform-style speed bumps, all with the setts laid longitudinally. I try to take them at a sort of diagonal angle when there's no traffic coming up behind me.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  10. algo
    Member

    At the corner of Shaftesbury Park and Ashley Terrace this morning, I nearly came a cropper (Turning right into Shaftesbury Park from Shandon Place) on account of this:

    which, although not laid longtudinally, still causes my wheel to almost get caught in the gap where there is a lack or mortar - and in this case a degradation of the road surface in general. I have clarenced this too, although I'd imagine it has been already by local residents.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  11. algo
    Member

    Got this response for anyone who's interested - get your "hard landscaping" requests in now....

    ==============

    Good Afternoon,

    Old Church Lane – Cobbles

    Thank you for your recent correspondence. An inspector visited the site recently and noted the defect raised in your enquiry. The defect has been added to a list to completed by our hard landscaping squad which will be available to us from the week beginning the 19th of May 2014. We expect this work to be completed any time between then and the following 4 weeks when we will lose use of this squad.

    I hope this is of assistance, should you have any further enquiries please contact me on the details below.

    Kind regards,

    Andrew Macleod

    Andrew Macleod | Environment Services Development Officer | The City of Edinburgh Council | Services for Communities | East Neighbourhood Centre | 101 Niddrie Mains Road | Edinburgh | EH16 4DS | Tel: 0131 529 3298 | Mob: 07730 618 931 | Email: andrew.macleod@edinburgh.gov.uk | http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/east | Follow us on Twitter: @east_team

    Posted 10 years ago #

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