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“By 2020, 10% of all journeys taken in Scotland will be by bike.”

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  • Started 11 years ago by chdot
  • Latest reply from Cyclingmollie

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  1. chdot
    Admin

    "

    As a mainly publicly funded organisation we aim to provide the best possible value for money in everything we do. Our resources are focussed on a range of strategic priorities that evolve to reflect the Scottish Government’s priorities as circumstances change.

    "

    http://www.cyclingscotland.org/about

    (Was just checking their site for something else.)

    Quite reassuring really..

    And 15% in Edinburgh.

    (Well maybe "to work")

    Well, maybe...

    Posted 11 years ago #
  2. crowriver
    Member

    Not so reassuring:

    "We are also fully committed to playing a central role in assisting the Scottish Government and its partners and stakeholders to achieve the vision set out in the Cycling Action Plan for Scotland"

    Ah, it's just a vision. No need to fret, carry on doing the usual.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  3. sallyhinch
    Member

    They're a bit behind the curve, it's now an aspiration

    Posted 11 years ago #
  4. neddie
    Member

    Don't worry, they're going to do it...

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-27294345

    ...by asking people nicely.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  5. Roibeard
    Member

    @Keith Brown

    "this Scottish Government and its partners are fully committed to the shared vision set out in the Cycling Action Plan (CAPS) for Scotland 2013"

    "I would like to reiterate the Deputy First Minister's comments that we all need to be committed and determined to aspire to the 10% vision as outlined in the Cycling Action Plan for Scotland 2013 and agree that it is disappointing to drop however slightly to a figure of 1.2% of journeys made by bike in 2012."

    "This Scottish Government aims to get more people making active travel choices for their everyday journeys wherever possible, to improve health and reduce carbon emissions. That is why the Scottish Government is committed to investing in cycling infrastructure, training and road safety projects through active partnerships with charities such as Sustrans, Cycling Scotland and local authorities."

    <snip £20m extra to £58m already aloocated, encouragement of local authorities, £14m for Community Links, £8.2m for CWSS>

    "Local authorities are responsible for 94% of the roads in Scotland and I would encourage [you] to ask their local authority how it can work with community partners and national bodies to support and invest in cycling projects in their area."

    "I hope these commitments reassure your constituent that the Scottish Government is taking positive action to get Scotland cycling and is not 'backing away' from helping to deliver our commitment to the shared vision as reiterated in the Cycling Action Plan for Scotland 2013, that by 2020, 10% of all journeys will be made by bike."

    Sorry Keith, I'm not reassured. You are "committed" to a shared vision, and "determined to aspire" to that. You are backing away as fast as possible from what used to a "target" and setting up the local authorities as the fall guys.

    Robert

    Posted 11 years ago #
  6. Roibeard
    Member

    So my response...

    Keith Brown hopes that I am reassured that the Government is taking positive action and is not backing away from their commitment, however I am not reassured.

    What once was a target, is now a shared vision, and the government is "determined to aspire" to it. Determined to dream, rather than act?

    The figures quoted are a tiny fraction of the transport budget, and I've yet to hear a Scottish minister say that they are "determined to aspire" to dual carriageways.

    The Government is also clearly setting up the fall guys already "local authorities are responsible for 94% of the roads in Scotland", so we dreamed a dream, yet "they" didn't fulfil it...

    Rather than reassured, I am now convinced that this target will not be met, and if anyone complains, it will have only been a mirage, and it's the councils' faults anyway.

    Robert

    Posted 11 years ago #
  7. crowriver
    Member

    Yeah, I'm sure we all need to be committed and determined to aspire to a vision of World Peace, Freedom From Want, and Free Love too. It'll all definitely happen by about 2020. Or something.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  8. Morningsider
    Member

    The foreword to the original CAPS states:

    "Our vision is that “By 2020, 10% of all journeys taken in Scotland will be by bike.”

    The foreword to CAPS 2013 sets out a shared vision that:

    "...by 2020, 10% of everyday journeys taken in Scotland will be by bike."

    Unfortunately, Transport Scotland forgot to define what constitutes an "everyday journey".

    Posted 11 years ago #
  9. chdot
    Admin

    But in an independent Scotland everyone will be so poor they'll have to cycle....

    Might not need a transport minister!

    (Or just not this one?)

    Posted 11 years ago #
  10. Kim
    Member

    The desire for the "aspiration" for 10% of all journeys taken in Scotland to be by bike by 2020, is growing and with it the pressure to do something to actually make it happen...

    Posted 11 years ago #
  11. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    But in an independent Scotland everyone will be so poor they'll have to cycle....

    Interesting point that the aspirations, visions and dreams will remain nebulous until cycling becomes common for working class adults again. I live in a largely working class area, and there are many bicycles. Almost all of them are child-sized. You can spot the handful of 'outsiders' leaving for work on bicycles a mile off.

    My neighbours regard me as a harmless eccentric, not a role model. They do not aspire to become bicyclists, even though some have fond memories of roaming far and wide on two wheels in the fifties and sixties.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  12. crowriver
    Member

    No, aspiration these days for many is to cruise the streets in a blingtastic floating sofa weighing 2 tons, almost too wide to fit into a parking space. Climate control, electric windows, surround stereo, voice control, hands free mobile built in, GPS mapping, parking proximity detection, etc. Oh and 0-60 in 3 or 4 seconds please.

    Sigh...

    Posted 11 years ago #
  13. Cyclingmollie
    Member

    Morningsider: "Unfortunately, Transport Scotland forgot to define what constitutes an "everyday journey"."

    "The ATAP (for Edinburgh) sets out a goal of further growing the percentage (of commuting journeys by bike) to 15% - that's around 22,000 by 2020, with a 10% by bike target for all trips." ATAP intro.

    So "everyday journey" may mean "all trips".

    Posted 11 years ago #

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